As they should. Y'see, Roark's a smart coder.

Hm, I thought warrior class were supposed to be buff and tanky slashing and hacking brutes. If you dispute how Ur'Guard bashes so good, thanks the combination of: racial defences, necromancy defences, ritual defences, and armour... remember that warrior class can't attack from afar, nor things like Mages and Guardians can do, and that warrior class are supposed to be good at face to face hunting. So just leave alone the warrior class... Or be more specific when bashing at the Ur'Guard, instead of mentioning things that involve anyone who possess Necromancy, can wear a fullplate (or a good armor, by that matter), have other defences based on Rituals (most likely).

Umm, Serenguard and Paladins cannot bash nearly as well as Ur'guard... because they lack an additional 33% damage reduction def (putrefaction). Furthermore, ranged attacks have nothing to do with anything. Are you trying to imply that because I can take 4 other people, at night, and moonburst in a local area... that I should bash 25x slower than an Ur'guard... makes no sense to me.

Just because you take less damage, does not mean you are going to bash faster, just means you are going to sip less.

Alright fine, Brood Viscanti Ur'guard can get like 22 strength -easy-... what other class can get strength or intelligence that high? Furthermore, I realize you do not bash but not having to worry about dying when an extra bull pops into the room is a HUGE ADVANTAGE. Death = loss of exp.

Simply wrong. Simply. Stagar is a rogue and can bash almost as fast as I can, while he has negative role points. You don't bash 25x slower, you just have to sip health more, and be a tad bit more careful.

don't forget putrefaction also hurts you, so if you time it wrong, you die. Serenguard get health regeneration and the ability to gain balance quicker, Paladins get other cool stuff.

Tae'dae, Taurian, Dracnari, Orclach, Krokani, Merian, Elfen. Maybe not 22, but 20+.

Oh, and your basically complaining about a fix that hasn't even been made yet... how cute.

You should complain about these thigns in your envoy report, thats where real changes get made.

*rofl* I just had a conversation with Stagar the other day and he was talking about how RP he wants to go Serenguard again but it would be -soooooo- much harder to bash that he is going to stay a rogue Ur'guard.

22 is based on a strength fortuna. but ok, even with 22 str the difference is not much at all. As a dracnari averaging 17str, I barely notice the lower damage as compared to when I was a Viscanti with 22str

Elfen cannot get 20str. Merian cannot get 20str. Orclach and Taurian and Tae'dae have experience penalities.

Thats probabbly because he doesn't want to waste the credits needed to get stagform back. He's going to lose a lot of lessons switching back and forth. And untill Stagar says it here, he might be lieing to you for IC reasons.

Taking little damage and dealing more damage... it all adds up in the end.

Raguel is high levelled, and he is a Serenguard Tae'dae, Stagar got high levelled as a Serenguard, then went Ur'guard.

You fail to understand this thread. I will break it down for you. As Ceres has said, ANYONE CAN BASH.

The point of this thread is that Ur'guard CAN BASH FAR EASIER AND FASTER THAN ANY OTHER CLASS SO MUCH THAT IT BECOMES RIDICULOUS

EVERY RACE has benefits and drawbacks. Is it not obvious by now?




If that is the case, Narsrim, why was number 1 in experience a Nihilist until he recently left for rp reasons?

I think I figured out the method behind Narsrim's madness. These topics are really secret ploys to get his post count up

This isn't about race. This is about how Ur'guard can bash faster than any other class and do so extremely quickly, take little damage, etc. Obviously, this means nothing if said Ur'guard sits on his ass. However, the effort exerted to achieve a higher level is FAR LESS for an Ur'guard because there is simply less concern with safety (for example, I've seen Ur'guard tank 4-5 bulls... they'd kill me in one round), etc.