If you were a faeling, all of your extra charisma would basically be health. Sounds good to me. But you chose dwarf, a race that has both strengths and disadvantages as do all of them besides human, adapt.

You would be correct, if you could Heal without using up eq or balance, but you can't, so you're not. Even when I had trans healing, and during a waning moon, I never bothered with heal. Waxing is almost as good, and my sprite gives me mana, not ego.

Oh, and Rhysus, get a clue. Downgrade waxing because it has some small benefit in a coven? That's the whole damned point of moon. If it was downgraded, it'd be worthless.

I don't think anyone complained about this before someone tried using a skillset dependant on the charisma stat with a race that's low on charisma. That'd be like if I were a dwarf geomancer and bitched that my staff wasn't doing enough damage to be useful over chasm.

Jello, why not make Puella cost one mana point for every health point it cured? Narsrim is just stating that it makes absolutely no sense, because it doesn't. It doesn't make sense even if you had 19 charisma.

Wow, I actually agree with you for once. Heal isn't all that BAD, really, it's just not as good as you'd expect it to be. And being able to kill yourself is a rather large drawback. What if you lost experience and the use of tarot for a day if you used too many cards?

Oh, it isn't so bad especially if you got no other use for ego. But when you compare heal with puella, it's a whole different story altogether. Would you rather pay less than 50 mana a heal, or 600+ (that's how much I pay for 2k+ health) ego per heal?

Just to recap, my entire argument is the heal is from the Healing skillset and as a result such be the best Healing spell available.

As it stands, there are several other abilities that are far better. I suppose the point I am trying to across is this:

Who should be more effective at healing damage (in all aspects):

A transcendent Healer who has devoted himself to become a master of a path dedicated to Healing

A ritualistic who learned the ability to heal minor wounds as a novice and has since when on to specialize in various other forms of magics and abilities that have nothing to do with such.

Some guilds get rituals and healing correct?

Yep, which is what makes it even lamer.

If one uses mana and the other uses ego, the combination would be complained about wouldn't it?

Puella is a novice skill. Heal is high in healing. Heal heals the same as Puella. Heal costs thousands of ego. Puella costs less then 50 mana. Puella can be done while impaled/crucified/webbed. Heal cannot. Problem here?

Thats not what I asked... your rehashing your same arguments over and over and over again.

Since when was heal high in healing? All that other stuff you said was right, but heal is like the basic skill.

Right, it isn't that high but that really isn't the point. The point is the Healing should provide the best Healing skill.

So you can wax for 1kish healing and 200 mana, or use up as much ego as you want for up to 3k health. Since you don't use ego otherwise in a fight, the combination of skills is useful.

LOL... You've repeated atleast two times that healing should be better because its a high skill. Using arguments such as transednant versus being a novice.

Waxing is more like 400-600 depending on the moon phase. And heal heals a set amount, like puella, only instead it costs an insane amount of ego, and if you drop to 0 ego, you "die" and suffer experience loss, and lose the entire skillset for a lengthy period of time.

Thats probabbly an Ego bug, you should look into it.

It isn't. It's an affliction that shows up in diagnose, called "healing burnout."

Actually, my waxing heals 200-400 less health than Heal... it isn't a 2k health difference