As a moondancer faeling I can regen about half my health in one round, but I can't do anything else while I do. :/

I think it was just something that wasnt thought of to rebalance it out after they fixed Tae'Dae from being SO broken in closed beta where they had level 3 regen as well, where literally you couldn't kill them. So when it was removed probably could have done with a bit more balancing *shrug* who knows

Hmm... I didn't know about that level 3 regen in Closed, but I had always considered Tae'dae to be an inferior racial choice, unless it was based on RP. Mainly because of the level three disadvantages, if the level 3 health regen was just stripped from them, with no further balancing, I would say reduce cold/fire resists/weaknesses respectively by one level, and drop the experience by one level. Probably means they go back to unbalanced, but at the moment, I see them as too disadvanted for new players to pick, even if some do pick them.

I don't think that all the races should be balanced, necessarily. At the moment, we fit in pretty well with what the histories imply (ie. lots of merians, elfen and viscanti in their respective city/communes, a fair amount of the allied ones eg. faelings in Serenwilde and only a few of the random other races) and if the races were changed to all be equally balanced, it would destroy that because people would pick more equally.

I think this would adversly affect the roleplay of some of the races too, because at the moment there's not much point to picking a tae'dae unless you want it for the rp, which means that you're going to put effort into it (although has anyone else noticed that Loboshigaru only have 1 more int than them? I don't see too many of them rping that, but then again I don't see too many of them anyway so I may be wrong...).

That is a fair point, about the balance of races in the realms, but even such concepts as that, I believe, shouldn't give someone the power over someone else to say, 'Because you picked that race, and umm... I umm... don't think everything should be balanced, suffer'

Neither do I think that it should all be the same thing with different names, I just believe that an overall balance would be better.
And if it's any example at all, I didn't even look at the stats until I had picked out 2 or 3 of the races based purely on the histories I had read, and their descriptions.

hmm my first double post

Bashing with tuek in astral at level 65

2315h, 3290m, 3680e, 10p ex-

You follow Hexe, Tuek Myeras, the Heir of Ellindel southwest to The Grand
Foyer.
2315h, 3290m, 3680e, 10p ex-
You follow Hexe, Tuek Myeras, the Heir of Ellindel west to The Hall of
Banquets.
2315h, 3290m, 3680e, 10p ex-
You scream out in anguish as a ravenous fesix's cruelly serrated teeth tear
into you!
You scream out in anguish as a ravenous fesix's cruelly serrated teeth tear
into you!
1215h, 3290m, 3680e, 10p ex-sip health

You take a drink from a sapphire vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
1631h, 3290m, 3680e, 10p ex-
Tuek thrusts his palm and a burst of silver light shoots out from his palm into
the distance.
A burst of silver light shoots into the area palm and burns into a ravenous
fesix, who cries out in pain.
1746h, 3290m, 3680e, 10p ex-stand
point cudgel fesix

You are not fallen or kneeling.
1746h, 3290m, 3680e, 10p ex-
The end of your cudgel forms a knotty burl and you point it at a ravenous
fesix. The burl pops and ruptures, shooting a barrage of splinters into his
flesh.
1746h, 3190m, 3680e, 10p x-
You scream out in anguish as a ravenous fesix's cruelly serrated teeth tear
into you!
A ravenous fesix batters you with a vicious swipe of his claws.
492h, 3190m, 3680e, 10p x-
Tuek shouts "Oi!" at the top of his voice.
492h, 3190m, 3680e, 10p x-e

You are recovering equilibrium and cannot move yet.
492h, 3190m, 3680e, 10p x-
You may use another health, mana, or bromide potion, or medicine bag.
492h, 3190m, 3680e, 10p x-look

The Hall of Banquets.
Superimposed over this location, an ethereal forest reaches up to the sky.
Everything in this delighfully sunny and fragrant Hall has been duplicated five
times. Five ancient time-pieces, their pendula swinging perfectly in
synchronisation, help pass the time before dinner. Five polished oakenwood
tables are arranged in a pentagon, each with its own attendant plush leather
chair. Five bone-china plates have been washed, dried and laid. The addition of
five little pepperpots and five little saltmills show a proper regard for
anyone's palate and five finely-folded serviettes complete this study in
perfect house-keeping. There is a large chalkboard here that warrants closer
scrutiny. There are 2 ravenous fesixs here. Pausing to rest, a mugwump pilgrim
looks off into the distance. Pleasantly plump, the mother lounges here smiling.
A beautiful sprite flitters here with a brilliant halo of white light
illuminating her presence. Smiling to herself, a wood nymph stands here. Hexe,
Tuek, the Heir of Ellindel is here. He wields a shield bordered in moonstones
in his left hand and an athame dagger in his right.
You see exits leading north (open door), east, southwest, and west.
492h, 3190m, 3680e, 10p x-
You bleed 51 health.
clot
441h, 3190m, 3680e, 10p x-
You exert superior mental control and your wounds clot before your eyes.
441h, 3130m, 3680e, 10p x-
You scream out in anguish as a ravenous fesix's cruelly serrated teeth tear
into you!
You have been slain by a ravenous fesix.
A stem of galingale falls out of your inventory.
The corpse of a monstrous lobstrosity falls out of your inventory.
The corpse of a monstrous lobstrosity falls out of your inventory.
The corpse of a monstrous lobstrosity falls out of your inventory.
The corpse of a monstrous lobstrosity falls out of your inventory.
The corpse of a monstrous lobstrosity falls out of your inventory.
All your golden sovereigns fall out of your hands.
A swirling force begins to tug at your soul and the world spins around you.
A ravenous fesix batters Tuek with an overhead blow.
0h, 3130m, 3680e, 0p ex-
You have recovered equilibrium.



Okay.. can we please get rid of the slow experience gain for us poor faelings? Its harder to bash and get anywhere as it is now.

Its also very expensive. Every hit I have to sip a potion and eat a sparkleberry to live. *whine**whine**whine**Moan* When I am by myself I have to fly everyonce and awhile and and come back down just to handle one fesix.

Am I doing something wrong? I have a shield, barkskin, invoked yellow.. greatrobes that are
Physical cutting: 47
Physical blunt: 43
Armour Status: 100

I am regenerating health with stagform, mercy enchantment and from being in an ethereal forest. ... what else can I do. Should faelings just stay out of astral are we just not meant to gain high levels?

Nah, we can hunt there... we just need a support team of at least two other people with us.

The experience drain does seem odd though.

And here is me moments after poor Ialie died.



Chef's kitchens.
Superimposed over this location, an ethereal forest reaches up to the sky. Less
of a kitchen, more of a holding area for carcasses of a variety of victims to
be boiled, roasted, grilled or stuffed, banks of iron ovens glow red, saucepans
bubble away and skidding on blood-soaked flooring, memories of kitchen-boys
cringe in disgust at the atrocities they once perpetrated. His stomach rumbling
loudly, a ravenous fesix is clearly in a foul mood.
You see exits leading south (open door) and west (open door).
Your movement causes your magical shield to dissipate.
3680h, 3095m, 2510e, 10p exkdb-moonburst fesix

You thrust your palm and a burst of silver light shoots out from the palm and
into distance, burning a ravenous fesix.
A burst of silver light shoots into the area palm and burns into a ravenous
fesix, who cries out in pain.
3680h, 2935m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
You scream out in anguish as a ravenous fesix's cruelly serrated teeth tear
into you!
3485h, 2935m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
You bleed 16 health.
3469h, 2935m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
You scream out in anguish as a ravenous fesix's cruelly serrated teeth tear
into you!
3298h, 2935m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
You have recovered equilibrium.
moonburst fesix
3482h, 3010m, 2510e, 10p exkdb-
A ravenous fesix batters you with a vicious swipe of his claws.
3181h, 3010m, 2510e, 10p exkdb-
You thrust your palm and a burst of silver light shoots out from the palm and
into distance, burning a ravenous fesix.
A burst of silver light shoots into the area palm and burns into a ravenous
fesix, who cries out in pain.
3181h, 2850m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
A sprite flies up and places a hand on your head, channeling mana to you.
3181h, 3095m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
You bleed 25 health.
3156h, 3095m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
A ravenous fesix batters you with a vicious swipe of his claws.
2952h, 3095m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
You feel the comforting presence of the mother briefly touch you.
3347h, 3095m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
You scream out in anguish as a ravenous fesix's cruelly serrated teeth tear
into you!
3141h, 3095m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
You have recovered equilibrium.
moonburst fesix
3141h, 3095m, 2510e, 10p exkdb-
You thrust your palm and a burst of silver light shoots out from the palm and
into distance, burning a ravenous fesix.
A burst of silver light shoots into the area palm and burns into a ravenous
fesix, who cries out in pain.
3141h, 2935m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
You bleed 44 health.
3097h, 2935m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
You scream out in anguish as a ravenous fesix's cruelly serrated teeth tear
into you!
2923h, 2935m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
A ravenous fesix batters you with a vicious swipe of his claws.
2866h, 3010m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
You bleed 19 health.
2847h, 3010m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
A sprite flies up and places a hand on your head, channeling mana to you.
2847h, 3095m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
You have recovered equilibrium.
moonburst fesix
2847h, 3095m, 2510e, 10p exkdb-
You thrust your palm and a burst of silver light shoots out from the palm and
into distance, burning a ravenous fesix.
A burst of silver light shoots into the area palm and burns into a ravenous
fesix, who cries out in pain.
2847h, 2935m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
You scream out in anguish as a ravenous fesix's cruelly serrated teeth tear
into you!
2634h, 2935m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
You feel the comforting presence of the mother briefly touch you.
2997h, 2935m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
A ravenous fesix batters you with a vicious swipe of his claws.
2826h, 2935m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
You bleed 14 health.
2812h, 2935m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
You have recovered equilibrium.
moonburst fesix
2996h, 3010m, 2510e, 10p exkdb-
You scream out in anguish as a ravenous fesix's cruelly serrated teeth tear
into you!
2806h, 3010m, 2510e, 10p exkdb-
You thrust your palm and a burst of silver light shoots out from the palm and
into distance, burning a ravenous fesix.
A burst of silver light shoots into the area palm and burns into a ravenous
fesix, who cries out in pain.
2806h, 2850m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
You bleed 16 health.
2790h, 2911m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
You scream out in anguish as a ravenous fesix's cruelly serrated teeth tear
into you!
2617h, 2911m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
A sprite flies up and places a hand on your head, channeling mana to you.
2617h, 3095m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
You scream out in anguish as a ravenous fesix's cruelly serrated teeth tear
into you!
2415h, 3095m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
You have recovered equilibrium.
moonburst fesix
2415h, 3095m, 2510e, 10p exkdb-
You thrust your palm and a burst of silver light shoots out from the palm and
into distance, burning a ravenous fesix.
A burst of silver light shoots into the area palm and burns into a ravenous
fesix, who cries out in pain.
2415h, 2935m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
A ravenous fesix mutters and traces a cobalt blue pentagram in the air that
remains hovering before him.
2599h, 3010m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
You feel the comforting presence of the mother briefly touch you.
2958h, 3010m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
You scream out in anguish as a ravenous fesix's cruelly serrated teeth tear
into you!
2781h, 3010m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
You bleed 14 health.
2767h, 3071m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
You have recovered equilibrium.
moonburst fesix
2767h, 3071m, 2510e, 10p exkdb-
You thrust your palm and a burst of silver light shoots out from the palm and
into distance, burning a ravenous fesix.
A burst of silver light shoots into the area palm and burns into a ravenous
fesix, who cries out in pain.
A frown on a ravenous fesix's face suddenly changes to horror as his skin
begins to glow with an inner silver light. Moonlight erupts from the pores of
his skin as he tries to scream but is instead consumed by the power of the
moon.
You have slain a ravenous fesix.
Many golden sovereigns spill from the corpse.
You suddenly scoop up the corpse of a ravenous fesix.
2767h, 2911m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
A sprite flies up and places a hand on your head, channeling mana to you.
2951h, 3095m, 2510e, 10p xkdb-
You have recovered equilibrium.
moonburst fesix
2951h, 3095m, 2510e, 10p exkdb-
Ahh, I am truly sorry, but I do not see anyone by that name here.
2951h, 3095m, 2510e, 10p exkdb-
You feel the comforting presence of the mother briefly touch you.
3346h, 3095m, 2510e, 10p exkdb-
You suddenly scoop up some gold sovereigns.
3346h, 3095m, 2510e, 10p exkdb-
You feel the comforting presence of the mother briefly touch you.
3680h, 3095m, 2510e, 10p exkdb-

Notice I never had to sip or heal?

Help out the poor Faelings! Give them an experience BONUS. Give them a level 3 influencing bonus on top of that. I mean, sheesh.

Also note we are both level 65.

But you can think about this another way.

Magic is used by all guardians, and either cutting/blunt damage is used by all knights. So lets say magic vulnerability balances cutting resistance.

Now its likely that whatever your class, you are going to rely more on one of either balance or equilibrium, not both. So we can match the predominant stance regain penalty with the obviously useful blunt resistance, and then the cold resistance (not as useful) matches with the remaining stance regain penalty (also not as harmful).

This leaves elixirs and experience. Elixirs plus your constitution is a phenomenal advantage... but even so, I have to agree that experience disadvantages punish player effort more than balance any sort of character superiority.

I just wanted to point out that the rest of your racial flaws seem to me to be balanced.