Do you mean in the mortal sense? Because that simply wouldn't happen, We don't "jump" each other, even those of Us that truly hate each other.

It would take something big for any Elder Gods to actually fight each other, and even if They did it would be more like a spar, since the energies necessary to actually kill an Elder God are rather insane, in fact it's never actually been done, the Soulless Gods consumed Them, which is an entirely different proposition from trying to break Them into pieces.

You have to remember only once has there actually been a major battle between the Elder Gods, resulting in some of Them being thrown into the Void, and that was before there were things like mortals, cities and villages to be collateral damage.

Solution. Replace Daevos with a Chade-like person.

Solution - Celest gets off their bums and plays their roles.

Can we at least see some kind of Divine pillow fight?

Lisaera has been pillowed to death by Fain's ****ing huge pillow of uber cool Divineness.

...I don't think that's Fain's style, to be honest.

Well, You could ask. It'd be worth a try!

It could be Fain's style. I see it as being spiky and flaming and poisonous and stuff.

Considering that I have asked people ICly what it would take for a change in opinion and they said "Not have any undead dwarves" I doubt a change of leadership on the side of Magnagora would do anything.

I'm curious why the Supernals are completely happy with Celest not trying to spread the Light.

One thing I don't think a lot of people are realizing is that we'd have to kill fae to convert them. There's more reason not to actually kill fae than just because we'd be enemied to Serenwilde; we'd be slaughtering those who have done nothing against us, which goes completely against the teachings of Raziela. So we'd be converting them, yes, but we'd have to kill fae to do so... which is bad.

And yet you have no problem killing undead thingies?

No...

I think there is a huge contradiction in here. Raziela wan'ts to convert fae, correct? But you say that to convert the fae you must kill them which goes against Raziela's teachings?

I would say that one thing does contradict with the other. Maybe the "death" of the fae should be viewed as the process of resurrection into the Light. Or in any case, killing a fae shouldn't really be that different from killing a rockeater for a Celester. I mean, people bash, right? Ethereal isn't of real importance to Celest. The Supernals and Celestia should want the whole universe to experience the bliss that ONLY the Light can provide. Taking beings to the Light should be viewed as the ultimate form of salvation, a life in the very presence of Paradise... the greatest form of compassion. I mean... is there anything greater in existance than to be saved and live forever in Celestia?

Regarding Magnagora... they can change. In fact, it require a change from Magnagora's part to suddenly include Serenwilde in their To Kill List. Magangora could once again concentrate on Celest and Celest territory. By doing this, Serenwilde may end not getting involved with Celest, as long as Magnagora leaves Seren alone.

On the matter of the Divines. I was half joking when I mentioned the Divines suddenly jumping each other, or whatever the Godly equivalent of jumping is. The trick was to generate some kind of light conflict, between the Divinites of Celest and the Divinities of Serenwilde, leading to a gap between the followers of the different Divines. This would probably conclude with both Celest and Serenwilde to be estrange to each other.

We did that Desdemona, only to encounter Serens defending Celest's villages.

We don't consider undead beings to be alive. The fact is, Fae are alive and they seem to be happy within the ethereal realm. To kill something and take it out of its home, goes against several founding ideals of the Supernals. In other words, we will kill 100 undead, before we kill a single fae.

Hm, to my knowledge... Magnagora was switching between villages, Seren villages were targetted not long ago. There Celest and Seren together during the defence, if I remember correctly.

But when you say Serens defending Celest villages, do you mean people like Tuek and Narsrim?

Killing an Avatar-loyal Fae and dropping them into the Well of Souls, then taking them to Raziela should be viewed no different than killing Gorgulu and cleansing him.

One must make sacrifices for the Light. One cannot take the good without the bad. That was the principle behind the Fae-slaughter. Despite the bad ending, the intent was there.

And, I wish Auseklis would try and force the "Nature is Nature, there is no such thing as Taint or Light for Nature, there is simply Change" as He originally did.

But, then again, he's only patron of the Druids now, while Lisaera has the other three guilds. This does help reflect the view of the Seren, and their focus on protecting the Fae, and stopping what they feel to be corruption and death, versus what Auseklis sees, which is merely Change.

I could see a lovely division in the Seren, if the Druids were to RP simply being followers of Nature, and taking Auseklis' view. That would stop a LOT of this anti-Mag crap. As long as Mag isn't there destroying their forests, it's not their business.

And we'd see maybe a few more pro-glom Serens than I already know of.

There's no contradiction, Desdemona.
The way the quest works is that a Faerie, Demon, or Angel who dies is placed into the Well of Souls.
They then come back as a live Faerie.
They're then fed honeycakes, and lead back to Raziela, Gorgulu, someone keeps telling me Nifilhema, or the Moon Aspects.

So if a Magnagoran killed a Faerie, then placed the body in the Well, it'd come back to life in the Ether. THEN it wouldn't be slaying them to lead them to Raziela.

No, I mean any Seren.

Malicia, Narsrim, Tuek, Nejii, Munsia, Quentin, Druthalus, Alef, Singollo, Charis,

But you see, you wouldn't necessarily be killing fae. You would be saving the fae's spirits... you would be pacifying from the torture of the Ethereal world. You would let the fae be embraced by the Light just as the Light has embraced you... a Celester. You are happy on the presence of the Light, aren't you? Why not share the happiness with others? The rest of the world may wish to experience such delicious harmony. Redeem everyone you see, cast them onto salvation. Free the fae from their ethereal coils.

I would agree with that; however, Ethereal isn't like Nil.