Niara, from an OOC perspective it isn't possible, but it's an even -more- silly perspective to say that the in-game characters should know that. What the heck's the point of doing anything if the characters aren't supposed to think there's a point to it? It's totally defeatist, and people shouldn't have to roleplay that way. The Celestians war against the Taint 'cause they think they can do something not "just for kicks."

I can't believe you tried to use this as a valid point.

You're effectively saying that no one should bother doing anything because ultimately it won't have a lasting effect. If this edict were followed, the game would just die. Forever. It'd turn into a pure chatroom. Yay...

I don't know. I prefer to operate by the illusion that Rhysus has no idea that they can't effectively destroy Taint altogether. Sorry if you prefer to just not roleplay, that's not really my thing.

I see nothing wrong with Lazul and Narsrim being able to kill Gorgulu alone with a resurgem coven.

What I hate is, how Auseklis said that they found a good strategy to use, why don't we do the same thing.

Its impossible for Magnagora to do the same thing, since Serens have moonbeam and covens.

There was no resurgem coven involved. Me and Narsrim were the only Moondancers up there. Not sure why you thought there was one.

Infact, you had said you were using a resurgem coven to heal them, while you had a few Celestians chanting puella you.

Ah. If I did say that, I said it badly wrong. Resurgem covens can't heal people. That was me farhealing. Resurgem covens require 5 people to be on the same plane, and brings them back to life if they die (remotely.)

Well, no matter what it is, its the same thing since we can't farheal people.

True enough.

Silvanus, it IS healing we're talking about. You know, that skill set that's an itty bitty step above hexes in terms of usefulness? I rather like the idea that someone found a use for the credit investment.

All we need to do, Silv, is find 3-4 serens with Healing willing to be farheal bizznatches for us. And then 3-4 chanters per farhealer, and each farhealer has an ur'guard hacking away at Raziela. It would work, if more serens sided with Mag against Celest. =\\

Or you could go recruit a few rogues with the healing skillset

Strange that while you're acting all high and mighty by saying that restoring the demon lords to their Shallamar personas is the greatest goal, it is a sentiment that is lacking, since you only restored Gorgulu.
If it was so important, you would have kept going and going until you had restored all the Demon Lords. Since you ignored them all but solely paid your attention to Gorgulu, it would be closer to the truth that you were, in fact, simply out to ruin the day for Magnagora.. But whatever.

We did try other Demon Lords. The thing about them was that each of them has the assistance of another, which makes things a bit more complicated than dealing with Gorgulu alone. We were strategizing on the matter, but haven't yet come up with a reliable way to keep the other Demon Lords out of the attackers' hair.


Lazul

It'd have to be rogues. Moondancers are banned from associating with Magnagorans now. :/ And there aren't a whole tonne of Moondancer rogues, certainly not with that much healing. Summer's the only one I can think of. (Mind you, I was the only farhealer with our team - I was being healed with puella et al., but some of you folks have that.)

I'm glad you are aware of what was and was not attempted... oh wait. The reality of the situation was that we could -only- kill Gorgulu. We tried to kill the others (in fact, I tested all of them to learn what attacks they had, etc), however, it simply is not possible to kill two demon lords at one time. Ashtorath alone would be EXTREMELY difficult because he can stun lock. So yes, we paid attention to the others but we lacked the means to kill them. We saved who were could.

If two people are level 80+ and start scoring world shattering criticals.. I dont see why they couldnt kill a Supernal or Demon Lord. Why 5?

Most people lack the common sense to put together what you have pointed out. Thus, this thread.

Let's assume Gorgulu has X health. If 15+ people attack him and 8-10 instantly die in the first 3 rounds because of the room attacks, and 2-3 die 3 room attacks later... then it basically comes down to 2-3 people who kill Gorgulu. Chances are that those people are high level (6,000+ health and scoring big criticals). If Gorgulu dies, then those 2-3 people could repeat the scenario minus the other 12-13 people and -still- kill him. In fact, it would be more feasible to do it without them just because it cuts down on the total player deaths which is exactly what Lazul/Tuek/I did.