Singollo2005-02-27 21:32:20
I believe the real solution is to zealously use the word ":censor:."
They'll appreciate "crap" a lot more.
EDIT: Watch your language. ~Shiri~
They'll appreciate "crap" a lot more.
EDIT: Watch your language. ~Shiri~
Soll2005-02-27 21:32:27
Nice expression. Leave Shiri alone. *slump*
Unknown2005-02-27 21:52:18
Burn in hell with Canada and the fscking pokemon, political correctness.
If you're editing crap, I want to see every hell and damn edited as well, as if someone is offended by crap, I am offended that they let hell and damn slide, and will bitch to whoever it is I have to bitch to making sure hell and damn are edited or you get your ability to edit revoked.
If you're editing crap, I want to see every hell and damn edited as well, as if someone is offended by crap, I am offended that they let hell and damn slide, and will bitch to whoever it is I have to bitch to making sure hell and damn are edited or you get your ability to edit revoked.
Veonira2005-02-27 22:57:14
Let's just use the censor emote from now on.
Everyone is a . I will your . !!!!! I will take your and kick it up your . .
(This had more but darn emote limits)
Everyone is a . I will your . !!!!! I will take your and kick it up your . .
(This had more but darn emote limits)
Desdemona2005-02-27 23:34:47
Eh, maybe moderators should focus more on the context before considering something as bad language.
"If someone says, let's get the crap out of here!"- crap is in here a way to emphasis some emotion.
"You should eat a steaming pile of crap, you mangy dog"- in here crap is used as an offensive way, therefore, one should be able to try avoid using such statements. Or the moderators should be able to censor... at the very least ask someone else to edit the post.
"You talk a lot of crap", "You are full of crap"- In here, metaphorically speaking crap reffers to a person who likes to speak foolishness. It could be tolerated, it is't very offensive unless someone bothers to make this a bit more "colorful". Though it is still of a vulgar connotation.
"I'v got tons of crap thrown around my bedroom"- here crap is used to designate a cluttered/messy bedroom, therefore it really shouldn't be considered offensive.
"I need to go take a crap"- here crap is used by someone their need to defecate. Of course, not something that those who wish to be more proper would probably abstain from using.
"Crap, he got me!"- used to emphasis another emotion, that of irritation.
"I played crap(s)."- here it refferss to the game of crap.
Though, take notice that mostly crap is used as slang. It's connotation may be more vulgar regarding the surrounding contents. So, the mere mentioning of the word crap shouldn't place anyone in the alarm.
Of course, we should have the capacity of regulating our own colloquialness, in order to not further degrade the terms we use, even when we know that in a day to day basis most of us are used to far worse terms than in whatever forms the word crap can be used.
If you feel like you just need to blow off steam, and may consider resorting to offensive language, either use a foreign language you know not many know, or even better use the emote.
"If someone says, let's get the crap out of here!"- crap is in here a way to emphasis some emotion.
"You should eat a steaming pile of crap, you mangy dog"- in here crap is used as an offensive way, therefore, one should be able to try avoid using such statements. Or the moderators should be able to censor... at the very least ask someone else to edit the post.
"You talk a lot of crap", "You are full of crap"- In here, metaphorically speaking crap reffers to a person who likes to speak foolishness. It could be tolerated, it is't very offensive unless someone bothers to make this a bit more "colorful". Though it is still of a vulgar connotation.
"I'v got tons of crap thrown around my bedroom"- here crap is used to designate a cluttered/messy bedroom, therefore it really shouldn't be considered offensive.
"I need to go take a crap"- here crap is used by someone their need to defecate. Of course, not something that those who wish to be more proper would probably abstain from using.
"Crap, he got me!"- used to emphasis another emotion, that of irritation.
"I played crap(s)."- here it refferss to the game of crap.
Though, take notice that mostly crap is used as slang. It's connotation may be more vulgar regarding the surrounding contents. So, the mere mentioning of the word crap shouldn't place anyone in the alarm.
Of course, we should have the capacity of regulating our own colloquialness, in order to not further degrade the terms we use, even when we know that in a day to day basis most of us are used to far worse terms than in whatever forms the word crap can be used.
If you feel like you just need to blow off steam, and may consider resorting to offensive language, either use a foreign language you know not many know, or even better use the emote.
Unknown2005-02-27 23:38:33
I personally do not find it offensive enough to warrent censoring, but I can see why it is being done: the mods have been told to keep bad language off the boards and not given any specific list of words (which is fair enough) and so they are using their own social experiences and social placing to guage what is and is not a bad word. Shiri obviously knows some people and/or is in a sitatuation where cr- is offensive enough to be censored.
Silvanus2005-02-27 23:39:37
So, if I get 4 people together, and we make up a language and decide the word "Shiri" will mean f:censor: in our language, the word Shiri can be banned from forums?
Desdemona2005-02-27 23:54:52
No, you could as well try use Shiri as a substitute for a "insultive" term (with your own meaning)... but you would look extremely ridiculous using it. My proposal was using actual terms of foreign languages, that you may think others may not understand. Always, of course, being careful that you don't over do it (don't use the greatest insults of said language, and overuse them just because others may not know it).
Like for example, I could say... Um, culero. And I am not sure if many of you would understand it. While culero is in my whereabouts the equivalent of saying gay, it still not a very proper term to use. Or like I said, prefferably sticking to the censored emote. i.e. " You son of a , get your over here!"
Though, consider, that slang is the jargon of the vulgus. In some sense you could consider it a degradation of the language, but nonetheless has become widely accepted/used. Yet, this doesn't mean that we should result to the most degrading terms of slang. Because slang can possess a severe degree of offensiveness. We are all expressive enough to control our language, so we should know how to control our slang.
Like I said, more than paying attention to the words (like crap, not one of the worst terms out there), there should be more attention on the surrounding context, or better said how the word is being used. Then, you can determine while the phrase requires censorship/editing/rephrasing.
Like for example, I could say... Um, culero. And I am not sure if many of you would understand it. While culero is in my whereabouts the equivalent of saying gay, it still not a very proper term to use. Or like I said, prefferably sticking to the censored emote. i.e. " You son of a , get your over here!"
Though, consider, that slang is the jargon of the vulgus. In some sense you could consider it a degradation of the language, but nonetheless has become widely accepted/used. Yet, this doesn't mean that we should result to the most degrading terms of slang. Because slang can possess a severe degree of offensiveness. We are all expressive enough to control our language, so we should know how to control our slang.
Like I said, more than paying attention to the words (like crap, not one of the worst terms out there), there should be more attention on the surrounding context, or better said how the word is being used. Then, you can determine while the phrase requires censorship/editing/rephrasing.
Unknown2005-02-28 00:23:45
QUOTE(Silvanus @ Feb 28 2005, 10:39 AM)
So, if I get 4 people together, and we make up a language and decide the word "Shiri" will mean f:censor: in our language, the word Shiri can be banned from forums?
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Use a bit of sense, Silvanus. If F*ck meant happy happy smile face where I came from would it be ok for me to use it on here where it means something totally different to all of you?
I am not saying I agree with c*ap being censored, I am simply trying to make things a little relative so that you might stop attacking Shiri for doing what he has been asked to do.
Silvanus2005-02-28 00:25:56
But he wasn't asked to censor out crap. He was asked to censor out bad language.
4 people who voted, think crap is a bad word, while 29 people think crap isn't a bad word.
4 people who voted, think crap is a bad word, while 29 people think crap isn't a bad word.
Desdemona2005-02-28 00:29:42
That is why maybe it should be made public what would be considered as "bad language" in the forums, so we all know that we are standing on common grounds. Also, special emphasis should be taken on the context rather than entirely on the word.
So far, for Shiri (due to whatever his upbringing is, probably), he may consider crap as a foul term, therefore he may consider himself in the duty of censoring such word.
So far, for Shiri (due to whatever his upbringing is, probably), he may consider crap as a foul term, therefore he may consider himself in the duty of censoring such word.
Shiri2005-02-28 00:33:08
According to the Divine, "crap" isn't a foul word, so I will now unedit all the posts in this topic that I had edited with it in. If you find another post I'd edited with it in and consider that it needs changing, PM me with the URL and post number and I'll re-edit it for you.
EDIT: Actually, this topic's entirely pointless now, so I'll just change the topic title and lock it.
EDIT: Actually, this topic's entirely pointless now, so I'll just change the topic title and lock it.