Unknown2005-03-06 04:24:26
As some of you may have noticed, Jelaludin has stopped coming around. I'm hoping the game will change some day as I love the world, but the fighting system really is just horrible. I tried all three of Magnagora's classes and here's what they come down to.
Geomancers and mages in general never get a fair fight.
Nihilist's wrack and torture are a joke. You can't kill anyone.
Ur'guard and knights in general need at least 10 minutes to kill any non-novice, which is probably why I've only fought a knight 1on1 outside of the arena once in the entire time I was playing.
I could always join a guild that actually has ways to kill people and get into fair fights (Celestians, and... and...) but I've spent too much time and money to justify a new character and since the only thing I like about Lusternia is the RP, taking Jelaludin there wouldn't fit.
So, for those of you wondering, there are my thoughts. I will probably sign in every few days, then every few weeks, or months like I do with aetolia. Hopefully unlike aetolia the large problems with the PvP systems will be fixed.
Geomancers and mages in general never get a fair fight.
Nihilist's wrack and torture are a joke. You can't kill anyone.
Ur'guard and knights in general need at least 10 minutes to kill any non-novice, which is probably why I've only fought a knight 1on1 outside of the arena once in the entire time I was playing.
I could always join a guild that actually has ways to kill people and get into fair fights (Celestians, and... and...) but I've spent too much time and money to justify a new character and since the only thing I like about Lusternia is the RP, taking Jelaludin there wouldn't fit.
So, for those of you wondering, there are my thoughts. I will probably sign in every few days, then every few weeks, or months like I do with aetolia. Hopefully unlike aetolia the large problems with the PvP systems will be fixed.
Unknown2005-03-06 04:29:13
There's more to a game that it's combat.
Come be a roaming highway lunatic with Guido.
Come be a roaming highway lunatic with Guido.
Elryn2005-03-06 04:31:17
QUOTE(Jello @ Mar 6 2005, 02:24 PM)
Ur'guard and knights in general need at least 10 minutes to kill any non-novice...
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Just find a Faeling to fight, it will make you feel much better.
But seriously, it is a shame you're not having fun anymore, sorry to see you go.
Unknown2005-03-06 04:32:06
QUOTE(Guido Flagg @ Mar 6 2005, 04:29 AM)
There's more to a game that it's combat.
Come be a roaming highway lunatic with Guido.
Come be a roaming highway lunatic with Guido.
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I like the RP and Guido is the man, but I don't like roleplaying above all else. I need a fun combat system too! So sorry, but no roaming highway lunatic jello
Well, maybe every now and then.
Torak2005-03-06 04:33:39
Sucks to see you go, you could always bash until pk becomes fun again
Ethelon2005-03-06 05:33:00
Hey, I'm giving away a free system Jello, guarantee it will make your combat better!
Unknown2005-03-06 07:08:51
Very funny. I've been the top PKer in every IRE game I've played before besides this, there's no reason to be sassy.
Ialie2005-03-06 08:35:12
Two Celestian girls go round the outside;
round the outside, round the outside
{*scratches*)
Two Celestian girls go round the outside;
round the outside, round the outside
{*scratches*)
Guess whose back
back again
Jello's back
tell a friend
Guess who's back,
guess who's back,
guess who's back,
guess who's back
guess who's back,
guess who's back,
guess who's back,
Da na na na na
I've become a monster,
Ain't no one gonna see Jelaludin no more
They want Jello, the dessert that quivers.
Well if you want Jello, this is what I'll give ya
A little bit of sugar mixed with some congealed water
Some corn syrup that'll rot your teeth quicker
than a kiss when I get kissed at the Megalith
by the Warlord when I'm not co-operating
When I'm humping the Demons while he's instigating
I've waited this long, now stop your hating
Cause I'm back, and me and Luciphage are copulating!
I know you got that job Llexyn and Morslade
but you won't stop me from populating!
So the S-E-G won't let me be
and Black Soil Conclave is blind to see
That Jello is so jigg-a-ly
And there is no dessert without me!
Jack2005-03-06 08:37:22
Gaudiguch = desert.
Hallifax = crystally place.
Jelaludin = Hallifaxy-guy.
Good song, though.
.. Or did you mean dessert, and was the whole thing some kind of joke about jelatin/gelatin/however it's spelled?
Hallifax = crystally place.
Jelaludin = Hallifaxy-guy.
Good song, though.
.. Or did you mean dessert, and was the whole thing some kind of joke about jelatin/gelatin/however it's spelled?
Unknown2005-03-06 10:22:08
Desert- lots of sand
Dessert- me. There's two S's because it's sweet! That's how you remember.
Dessert- me. There's two S's because it's sweet! That's how you remember.
Unknown2005-03-06 11:49:32
Top fighter? I KNOW who you were in Imperian. I say no.
Unless I am mistaken as to who you are, but I believe it begins with an I. Would say the whole name, but I'm not sure if you intended it to be a secret.
Unless I am mistaken as to who you are, but I believe it begins with an I. Would say the whole name, but I'm not sure if you intended it to be a secret.
Asarnil2005-03-06 14:23:39
If not the top fighter, he was always in the top few Tuek - you can't argue with that. Though if he went back to Imperian now he has actually learnt how to code (yes that was a personal attack - but a friendly one) he will probably be ranked even higher (though to be honest I don't know how the game changed since the wardens etc got put in - its when I quit). And the only reason he wasn't considered the number one scourge of Antioch back then, was because he was actually intelligent and didn't act the way a couple of Mag's did in open beta here running through Celest every hour on the hour.
Even though he was a stinking Magick user, my character and his were still pretty much mates - and it was awesome roleplay.
Even though he was a stinking Magick user, my character and his were still pretty much mates - and it was awesome roleplay.
Narsrim2005-03-06 14:23:50
Did you ever consider that Trill + Ur'guard = crap whereas Viscanti + Ur'guard = potential 2,000 damage a combo?
Asarnil2005-03-06 14:34:25
Narsrim - im Drac Ur'Guard and it still takes me 5-10 minutes on average for a fight against most people with half a clue (excepting Murphy, Ixion, Tuek and yourself because you are all freaks of nature - and Ethelon because his pet is sucky beyond belief). I fought another knight in the arena, and it took 4 bloody timeouts with ever increasing restrictions on what we did before someone made a mistake and I won. And that isn't a once off - the Arena is just a huge drain on my resources which hardly ever does anything for me except take my money and leave me sitting outside the arena after 5 minutes.
Amaru2005-03-06 14:41:13
QUOTE(Jello @ Mar 6 2005, 08:08 AM)
Very funny. I've been the top PKer in every IRE game I've played before besides this, there's no reason to be sassy.
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And I gotta admit, I don't love Lusternia's world enough that I'd play if it weren't for combat/Malicia. But then I never thought any of the IRE worlds really captured me, they're too random.
EDIT: Watch your language. ~Shiri~
Ceres2005-03-06 14:59:22
Combat in Lusternia is too group-centric and costly as regards experience loss, in my opinion.
Edit: Transcendent posts, babeh. Woo.
Edit: Transcendent posts, babeh. Woo.
Amaru2005-03-06 16:07:17
QUOTE(Asarnil @ Mar 6 2005, 03:34 PM)
Narsrim - im Drac Ur'Guard and it still takes me 5-10 minutes on average for a fight against most people with half a clue (excepting Murphy, Ixion, Tuek and yourself because you are all freaks of nature - and Ethelon because his pet is sucky beyond belief). I fought another knight in the arena, and it took 4 bloody timeouts with ever increasing restrictions on what we did before someone made a mistake and I won. And that isn't a once off - the Arena is just a huge drain on my resources which hardly ever does anything for me except take my money and leave me sitting outside the arena after 5 minutes.
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Don't talk . That list of people who you can fight for more than 5 minutes isn't exhaustive. You're the guy who screamed at me and Ceres for teaming you, because my angel had wrath activated. That fight didn't last 30 seconds nevermind 5-10 minutes. I expect the same of Tuek, Narsrim, Murphy, Ixion, Ethelon and quite a few others, they're all at the top of their class. Don't get ahead of yourself.
EDIT: Watch your language. ~Shiri~
Roark2005-03-06 17:56:19
QUOTE(Ceres @ Mar 6 2005, 10:59 AM)
Combat in Lusternia is too group-centric and costly as regards experience loss, in my opinion.
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The XP loss is the same as Achaea, and indeed it is less if you die in your city.
Asarnil2005-03-06 18:07:19
QUOTE(Amaru @ Mar 7 2005, 02:37 AM)
Don't talk . That list of people who you can fight for more than 5 minutes isn't exhaustive. You're the guy who screamed at me and Ceres for teaming you, because my angel had wrath activated. That fight didn't last 30 seconds nevermind 5-10 minutes. I expect the same of Tuek, Narsrim, Murphy, Ixion, Ethelon and quite a few others, they're all at the top of their class. Don't get ahead of yourself.
EDIT: Watch your language. ~Shiri~
EDIT: Watch your language. ~Shiri~
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Oh, I am so sorry I forgot to mention your distinguished name in that list who would have ever thought that the first time I faced something it can bugger me over - that would NEVER happen to ANYONE. And I didn't "scream at you" - I used one "say" in the arena calling you :censor:ed teamers when I was completely buggered just before I died. Oh and I didn't apologise for that when I found out I was mistaken - oh wait I did apologise politely and actually meant it, so go grab your ego and shove it somewhere .
Please go through all my posts for me, because I want to know where I claimed that I was the greatest fighter alive. When I post something like I did a few posts up, its because I am posting from my characters experiences in the game. I know I am only a slightly above average fighter (and lets face it, the average here is pretty bad). I am lacking skillwise, which I am trying to remedy and am in a constant state of cleaning up and working out how to better my system. And yes, I also know that my combat experience vs non-knights is fairly limited, though I do try to get more fights under my belt, but the amount of good quality opponents in the game isn't really that extensive until the population fills out a bit. I think they would agree with me about this, but I am even starting to hold my own better against Tuek and Narsrim when they raid Angkrag compared to what I used to be like against them.
Now that you mentioned it though, for all of you who complained how knights are overpowered - I last about three times longer against Murphy than I did against Amaru. And if I had surge that time would be AT LEAST six times as fast instead. Yup Murphy is suuuuure overpowered there.
Karrah2005-03-06 21:02:18
I was 4th ranked combatant in Imperian. I did manual healing (we are a dying group), and managed to beat almost all who could program a wicked healing system. And Imperian, combat was much harder too. Here its much easier to get outta affliction-locks. Back in Imperian I was speed-demon with artifact sabres and 20 different toxin combinations.
I come to Lusternia and I've hardly touched the combat system. Many different aspects to a game besides fighting.
I come to Lusternia and I've hardly touched the combat system. Many different aspects to a game besides fighting.