New Arts Skill

by Richter

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Richter2005-03-03 00:22:22
My idea has two different forms:

1. I hate the fact that -everything- is a painting. If I want to showoff a picture of something, I have to paint it, and lug it around. I want to doodle or draw on some paper, hmm? Shouldn't be that hard to code? Maybe? *puppy dog eyes*

2. A secondary function, that I came up with while writing the first one.

REMEMBER MURPHY

You stare at Murphy, and briefly close your eyes, keeping the image in your mind.

RECALL

You remember just how these look like:
Items:
Mace1234 Tetra, the elemental scourge
orb3784 a manse fulcrux orb
Places:
Office of the Archon
People:
Murphy

DRAW MURPHY

Taking a sheet of paper and a pencil, you quickly sketch out how you remember Murphy to look like.


Aaaaannd.. you forget things after a year.

You guys like the idea?
Unknown2005-03-03 00:24:39
Yes. wink.gif
Daganev2005-03-03 00:24:47
Remember should take a 10 second balance and not be forgotten untill you forget it, with a limit of 7 things in your memmory.

I pick seven because I think thats about the limit of nomral recall memory or something.
Shiri2005-03-03 00:25:32
If they're much worse compared to the paintings, sure. Not sure how you'd achieve that, though. Probably just an awful decay time. *think*
Richter2005-03-03 00:46:20
They wouldn't have a lesser decay, but you couldn't enchant them. I mean, they're pieces of paper, why have a limitation?

And you should forget how to draw something after a set period of time. I sure can't remember how things looked like a while ago, and heck, go look at 'em again.

Unless Estarra pops in. Then just paint Her.

As for the number of things you can remember, it would be amusing to have it based on your age. Lesser for younger, more for middle aged, and even more for the old and wise. Or, you could just make the ability crappy but funny, and have old people remember less. tongue.gif

In any case, my idea rocks. *sagenod*
Shiri2005-03-03 00:49:41
'cause if you're just remembering something and scrawling it down later, how accurate are you going to be? It would take someone who RP'd really well, as well as had experimented with it RL or something to see how accurate their memory was, and then remember how much time had passed...as well as tonnes of other things...to be able to customise the description properly, so something else designed to show the shoddiness of that kinda work (it's a sketch taken from memory, not a painting from view) would have to be in evidence.

I can only think of decay times. Any other suggestions are just as good, probably.
Daganev2005-03-03 00:52:05
As an artist, I can still paint almost perfectly the first Cat I learned how to draw. There are quite a few other memorable pieces of art I've made that I can reproduce almost perfectly, despite my terrible memory at these things.
Shiri2005-03-03 00:54:07
...okay. Maybe I'm just assuming too much then. tongue.gif
Richter2005-03-03 00:59:07
And I'm trans arts.

My skillz > Your skills
Shiri2005-03-03 01:02:34
Yeah, yeah, I just didn't think transcendant arts came with perfect recall too. tongue.gif
Daganev2005-03-03 01:07:39
Richter, thats what I was saying... Your memory of painting should not decay over time if you've commited the idea to memory.

Me as a simple art student can rememeber preciecsly drawings that I have learned how to do. Its not uncommon for an artist to be able to reproduce a work without looking at anything once they know how. No matter how many years later. What I remember is the steps needed to make the drawining, not what the drawining looks like excatly. I wonder if that makes any sense.
Shiri2005-03-03 01:16:03
To me, it doesn't. But, I've been accused of being soulless so many times, and I just don't find anything beautiful about art (even natural art like mountains and stuff - I have no idea why people think Wales is so breathtaking), that I'll assume it's a personal limitation, you're right, and I've no idea what I'm talking about. There you go, point settled. wink.gif
Daganev2005-03-03 04:05:33
The beuty of art is not the picture but what went into the picture.

That is why crappy modern art is able to get passed off as art, because it acknowledges the fact that the actual image means almost nothing.
Ceres2005-03-03 08:02:57
A daganev sliced in half and suspended in preservative?
Daganev2005-03-03 08:06:12
No, not whats inside, what went into... like a huge pile of fecese served on dishes set on a fancy table. (thats a real piece that sold for a couple thousand dollars)
Shiri2005-03-03 18:18:56
...yeah, I personally don't feel like a lot of work is going into that, but that's probably just my unartistic soul or all. dry.gif I hate poetry, too.
Richter2005-03-03 19:14:40
I hereby ban you from this thread.

Ha!

Add constructive criticism! Don't keep tellin meh you hate art!
Daganev2005-03-03 19:24:43
nobody said anything about work... Its the CONCEPT. I reall really hate trying to teach people things that I completely disagree with, but oh well.

See, you may thing Davinci was a good artist because he painted well, and made things look like they were suppose to. But the art world likes Divinci because within his paintings he subverted the King and Christianity. They look at his paintings and see the MIND of a genious, they could almost care less for his technique.

So when someone puts pieces of dung on a plage, charges people $60 to sit at the table, and makes it all fancy looking.. the museum people go gaga because the artist is "playing with the notion of food and society" I havn't read it but I'm guessing the artit's statement says something like .. "In today's post industrialist consumer society, what we create has great imporance, yet the staying goes you are what you eat, and hence I give you... The products of what we are... we are terrible consumers who take nice good food and make crap out of it"


get it now? It has almost nothing to do with actually enjoying it. Its all about the concept. As an example.. (my teacher thought my Performance piece was the best in the class) Anyway, I was playing lusternia till 8am, went to class at 11 without sleeping. I had forgotten to do my homework (which was to come up with a 2 minute perfromance piece in class) When it was my turn I said "I have been playing computer games all night, I don't like this assignment, I don't want to be graded on my mind or what I think is art, and I am tired, so I refuse to do this assignment. I have been wanting to refuse homework since I was in highschool, and now I can so goodnight." I then proceded to go to sleep. When the teacher asked for a 1 page paper, I wrote "Just like my work , I refuse to write this paper" I got a big fat A and was the talk around the department for a day or two. Artists.....
Anarias2005-03-03 20:28:31
I don't think you're entirely right Daganev. Going back to your Leonardo Da Vinci example, the art world likes Da Vinci for his innovations in technique quite a bit. His concepts were brilliant, his techniques were brilliant along with a multitude of other factors. For all those things, not just one factor, he is considered a genius. His technique, i.e. the use of chiaroscuro and sfumato often made what would have been mere mediocre paintings into masterpieces.

Having said all that, I'd love to have an ability to make drawings. It'd be great to be able to bind them in a sketchbook of sorts too.
Daganev2005-03-03 21:10:57
" Thomas Kinkade is one of the most successful commercial artists of all time but it could be said that he is a business man first and an artist second. His pieces are undeniably beautiful and well done but he is not known for his creativity. Although, his work is highly coveted by certain demographics of American society he has yet to impress the intellectual art world. The piece “Courage” is quite stereotypical of his work: picturesque, unimaginitive, idealistic, and cliché. It is pleasant to the eye as scenery but it lacks intellectual stimulation."


If you ask Kinkade about his work, as I read in a Article where he was being exihibited in an artsy musuem for the first time at UCLA, he views them as sepcial pieces of art with much thought and creativity and such. He is also the most succesfull artist in history, in terms of money. But the main comment about his art gallery show was "Is this suppose to be ironic?" There isn't a single member of the art community who will admit to likeing his work.

How about all the D&D artists who make amazing pictures but get laughed at by any contemporary art Museum, or the complete ignoring of comic book art. All of which have innovation and style and often have more of an impact on society than any piece of art in any world renoun gallery.

The reason the public likes art and the reason the art world likes art is most often very seperate.

Incase anyone doesn't know of Kinkade here is an arbitrary example:
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Oh and here is 'courage'
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