Nyla2005-03-11 16:09:24
I am sticking with my vote from last time and voting summer
Summer2005-03-11 16:10:31
You say my idea has too much damage potential. I ask, in what way? (except the risk to the seers, which all elders face anyway). Or perhaps I should ask, _to who_? Perhaps you are a Soulless, and believe that my idea will work, and hence, the "too much damage potential" to Soulless.
At least I have logic behind my ideas, and I spell everything out *points to scenarios*. That said, this idea won't work in if we start in later rounds, because then it'd be even more likely that our seers / guardians are gone.
If say we follow Erion's idea, and the seer PMs those they know aren't Soulless, how will the people who got PMed know that it's a real Seer? A Soulless could easily go around PMing the elders claiming to be a Seer and getting them to vote for all the wrong people if they are believed.
Edit: Hmm... Just such a short time after posting my idea and I get 3 death threats already. Does this mean my idea is good? Before the rest of you jump on the bandwagon, I ask that you think a bit on the idea first and see if it doesn't make sense.
At least I have logic behind my ideas, and I spell everything out *points to scenarios*. That said, this idea won't work in if we start in later rounds, because then it'd be even more likely that our seers / guardians are gone.
If say we follow Erion's idea, and the seer PMs those they know aren't Soulless, how will the people who got PMed know that it's a real Seer? A Soulless could easily go around PMing the elders claiming to be a Seer and getting them to vote for all the wrong people if they are believed.
Edit: Hmm... Just such a short time after posting my idea and I get 3 death threats already. Does this mean my idea is good? Before the rest of you jump on the bandwagon, I ask that you think a bit on the idea first and see if it doesn't make sense.
Summer2005-03-11 16:31:16
Just making the above post shorter since I think people would be more likely to read it then
Oh, just for the record, I am not a Soulless. But should you guys kill me off anyway, I want white roses at my funeral. Or I will come haunt you guys. My new favourites for the list of soulless: Erion, Silvanus, Daganev, Nyla... possibly Etanru / Eldanien. Even if it does kill off my pet theory on who's the Seer, and even if there's this little voice in my head saying Daganev's an Elder. Maybe replace Daganev with Jack *ponder*
*pokes Shamarah* So... can dead people continue trying to swing opinions etc? Seeing that I might need this answer soon.
Oh, just for the record, I am not a Soulless. But should you guys kill me off anyway, I want white roses at my funeral. Or I will come haunt you guys. My new favourites for the list of soulless: Erion, Silvanus, Daganev, Nyla... possibly Etanru / Eldanien. Even if it does kill off my pet theory on who's the Seer, and even if there's this little voice in my head saying Daganev's an Elder. Maybe replace Daganev with Jack *ponder*
*pokes Shamarah* So... can dead people continue trying to swing opinions etc? Seeing that I might need this answer soon.
Unknown2005-03-11 16:45:35
By all rules, dead people are dead. And due to Jack and Nyla going after Summer, I think THEY are Soulless.
Summer2005-03-11 16:48:41
*sniffle* I'll just come around to haunt you guys then. Won't try to swing votes once I'm dead.
Soll2005-03-11 17:28:06
For today I'm going to vote Daganev. I believe Daganev to be a Soulless God because he narrowly avoided last month, with a high number thinking he was a Soulless God, which then diminished almost instantly away from him. I believe this was one of the Soulless ploys to get a few votes on him, and wasted, before moving all the votes to someone else, therefor eliminating an Elder/Seer/Guardian just as the day drew to an end.
Eldanien2005-03-11 17:54:29
I'm voting to be rid of Soll. His first push was to pick at random and vote off. His second now points at what I feel is an unlikely connection.
The soulless have to communicate one to one. Where we have an open forum, their communication is inherently more tedious. I doubt any 'ploys' involving more than one or two soulless are likely to have happened yet.
I've noticed that, so far, it's the quiet and reserved elders who have been killed off. Their tactic avoids affirming or refuting what's been said here.
I like Summer's plan, excepting where she thinks I'm a soulless. Her plan has holes, yes, but they all do. Any course of action we pick and stick to gives us something to work off of. Until then, we're just pointing fingers and relying on chance, while giving the soulless more time to pick us off.
The soulless have to communicate one to one. Where we have an open forum, their communication is inherently more tedious. I doubt any 'ploys' involving more than one or two soulless are likely to have happened yet.
I've noticed that, so far, it's the quiet and reserved elders who have been killed off. Their tactic avoids affirming or refuting what's been said here.
I like Summer's plan, excepting where she thinks I'm a soulless. Her plan has holes, yes, but they all do. Any course of action we pick and stick to gives us something to work off of. Until then, we're just pointing fingers and relying on chance, while giving the soulless more time to pick us off.
Summer2005-03-11 18:03:31
Actually, Nayl fingered Nyla. The only one who voted for Nyla seriously. I was just voting Nyla cos he voted for me out of the blue.
Shoshana... was just a name plucked out of the blue by Silvanus. *ponder*
Edit: Think I'll follow Dag's example, except that I won't be voting for myself. Changing vote to Daganev following the reasons Soll posted. But if it's between me and Silvanus (like it looks to be going right now), be voting for Silvanus.
*waits for Shamarah to scream no more "if" votes*
Shoshana... was just a name plucked out of the blue by Silvanus. *ponder*
Edit: Think I'll follow Dag's example, except that I won't be voting for myself. Changing vote to Daganev following the reasons Soll posted. But if it's between me and Silvanus (like it looks to be going right now), be voting for Silvanus.
*waits for Shamarah to scream no more "if" votes*
Unknown2005-03-11 19:31:35
I'ma going to vote for Jack this round.
Jack2005-03-11 19:35:26
Hoe! I ain't no skanky Soulless!
Unknown2005-03-11 19:36:17
See? He's clearly in denial. GRAB THE DIVINE PITCHFORKS!
Jack2005-03-11 19:40:03
NOT THE NUTS!
Daganev2005-03-11 19:49:33
Here is why I vote silvanus.
I suggested that everyone who voted for me, must be a soulless because they voted in a block.
immediatly, Silvanus said "Oh! look, I'm voting for someone else now, so don't look at me at being a soulless"
If say, I was arranging this scheme with soulless, it would a) have to be the people who voted for me, which means I have just ragged out on every soulless. Because there were exactly 5 votes. so if I'm a soulless, you can just kill all of the soulless off based on my list and the soulless lose. b. If I arranged this with just one other soulless, then my plan had almost no way of working because that would bring my vote count from 5 to 4, which still would have gotten me kicked off.
Instead, I would say people realized that I am indeed not a soulless, nor a guardian, nor a seer. Otherwise, why would I risk voting myself off? However, being a simple elder there is nothing lost by me voting for myself if the majority is allready voting for me.
However, I am startign to have my doubts about silvanus, I'm going to go look through the list now and make a statistical analysis. brb.
I suggested that everyone who voted for me, must be a soulless because they voted in a block.
immediatly, Silvanus said "Oh! look, I'm voting for someone else now, so don't look at me at being a soulless"
If say, I was arranging this scheme with soulless, it would a) have to be the people who voted for me, which means I have just ragged out on every soulless. Because there were exactly 5 votes. so if I'm a soulless, you can just kill all of the soulless off based on my list and the soulless lose. b. If I arranged this with just one other soulless, then my plan had almost no way of working because that would bring my vote count from 5 to 4, which still would have gotten me kicked off.
Instead, I would say people realized that I am indeed not a soulless, nor a guardian, nor a seer. Otherwise, why would I risk voting myself off? However, being a simple elder there is nothing lost by me voting for myself if the majority is allready voting for me.
However, I am startign to have my doubts about silvanus, I'm going to go look through the list now and make a statistical analysis. brb.
Jack2005-03-11 20:03:59
QUOTE(BobStar @ Mar 11 2005, 04:45 PM)
By all rules, dead people are dead. And due to Jack and Nyla going after Summer, I think THEY are Soulless.
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You forgot Erion.
Daganev2005-03-11 20:21:47
Ok, so far we have not heard anything from Yrael or Seraphi. Very curious.
I have compared the posters in this topic to the overall top 50 posters in the forums. Although there is nothing scientific about this, I feel that if someone was a soulless they would have something to hide, and therefor there is a high probablitity that they would act differently than normal. (unless they have played this game before and truely love it)
Now, I will go through each person and tell you my results of my analysis and you can come to your own conclusions. The following is the number of posts each person has made in this topic.
daganev 18 -- 2nd top 50 posters.
Silvanus 15 -- 3rd on top 50 posters
Shamarah 13 -- (running the game so doesn't matter, but 27th of top 50
Summer 12 --- 26th of top 50.
Eldanien 12 -- 53rd in top 50 (guesssing by reletive closeness of posts to the 50th person)
BobStar 8 --- 8 TOTAL posts.
Jalain 6 -- 241 TOTAL posts, guessing ranked 56th in total posts.
Etanru 5 -- 43rd in Top 50
Jack 5 -- 51st in Top 50
nyla 3 -- 176 TOTAL posts
Soll 3 -- 153 TOTAL posts... who knows what ranks
Erion 3 -- 14th of top 50
Manjanaia 2 -- 197 TOTAL posts, probably close to rank 65
Gaetele 2 --109 Total posts
Shoshana 2 --dead
Kaervas 1 --dead
Veonira 1 --207 total posts, probably ranked around 60
Lyren 1 -- 68 TOTAL posts
Nayl 1 --- dead
Yrael 0 -- 44th of top 50
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Eldanien, by the way he writes sounds like he's played this game before, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now for his odd behavior.
However, Erion and Yrael are acting strangely As nobody has voted for those two yet, I'm going to withhold judgmment, but here's the important part in all this spam...
I remove my vote for Silvanus, he's not acting as strangley as I had thought. and I vote for Yrael. However, since this is the last post I will make untill sunday, If nobody else votes for Yrael, (or if only one person votes) then I will vote for whomever has the most votes, including myself (incase of tie, I'll let Soll pick) I figure someone who is voting against me will appear to be more objective, and thus more fair in breaking ties
I have compared the posters in this topic to the overall top 50 posters in the forums. Although there is nothing scientific about this, I feel that if someone was a soulless they would have something to hide, and therefor there is a high probablitity that they would act differently than normal. (unless they have played this game before and truely love it)
Now, I will go through each person and tell you my results of my analysis and you can come to your own conclusions. The following is the number of posts each person has made in this topic.
daganev 18 -- 2nd top 50 posters.
Silvanus 15 -- 3rd on top 50 posters
Shamarah 13 -- (running the game so doesn't matter, but 27th of top 50
Summer 12 --- 26th of top 50.
Eldanien 12 -- 53rd in top 50 (guesssing by reletive closeness of posts to the 50th person)
BobStar 8 --- 8 TOTAL posts.
Jalain 6 -- 241 TOTAL posts, guessing ranked 56th in total posts.
Etanru 5 -- 43rd in Top 50
Jack 5 -- 51st in Top 50
nyla 3 -- 176 TOTAL posts
Soll 3 -- 153 TOTAL posts... who knows what ranks
Erion 3 -- 14th of top 50
Manjanaia 2 -- 197 TOTAL posts, probably close to rank 65
Gaetele 2 --109 Total posts
Shoshana 2 --dead
Kaervas 1 --dead
Veonira 1 --207 total posts, probably ranked around 60
Lyren 1 -- 68 TOTAL posts
Nayl 1 --- dead
Yrael 0 -- 44th of top 50
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Eldanien, by the way he writes sounds like he's played this game before, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now for his odd behavior.
However, Erion and Yrael are acting strangely As nobody has voted for those two yet, I'm going to withhold judgmment, but here's the important part in all this spam...
I remove my vote for Silvanus, he's not acting as strangley as I had thought. and I vote for Yrael. However, since this is the last post I will make untill sunday, If nobody else votes for Yrael, (or if only one person votes) then I will vote for whomever has the most votes, including myself (incase of tie, I'll let Soll pick) I figure someone who is voting against me will appear to be more objective, and thus more fair in breaking ties
Jalain2005-03-11 20:27:27
I think Daganev's idea is somewhat flawed, though that doesn't exactly make him a Soulless. They vote together during the night, during the day, I really doubt they would vote as a group. They could spread more dissent among the Elders if they vote seperately.
That said, my list of who I think the Soulless are, include Silvanus, Eldanien, Erion and Bobstar.
That said, my list of who I think the Soulless are, include Silvanus, Eldanien, Erion and Bobstar.
Daganev2005-03-11 20:33:36
Wait, which idea is flawed? My old one which I just rejected, or my new one?
You can tell I rejected my old idea because I'm not voting for silvanus anymore.
You can tell I rejected my old idea because I'm not voting for silvanus anymore.
Jalain2005-03-11 20:33:47
Does Yreal even remember that he signed up for the game? Someone go bitch slap all the people who havn't voted/posted yet!
Eldanien2005-03-11 20:34:54
Nyla's vote against Summer was rather out of the blue. There was no reason for it at the time. Summer had not posted once yet. Even if Nyla were a seer and he'd discovered she were soulless, I would have expected a seer to wait for a plausible reason to come up, or find some other way to disseminate the information among trusted individuals.
Soll gave a reason for voting the way he is. I think it's wrong, but I admit that I could be wrong in this.
At the risk of sounding too wishy washy, I'm changing my vote to Nyla.
Soll gave a reason for voting the way he is. I think it's wrong, but I admit that I could be wrong in this.
At the risk of sounding too wishy washy, I'm changing my vote to Nyla.
Jalain2005-03-11 20:53:26
QUOTE(Eldanien @ Mar 12 2005, 06:34 AM)
... Even if Nyla were a seer and he'd discovered she were soulless...
... At the risk of sounding too wishy washy, I'm changing my vote to Nyla.
... At the risk of sounding too wishy washy, I'm changing my vote to Nyla.
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Am I the only one thinking Eldanien is trying to get rid of a possible Seer?
EDIT: Gah, I better log off now. I have about 9 hours left with this stupid ISP and they might have to last 5 or 6 more days.