Elemental Expansion

by Aether

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Shiri2005-03-11 20:24:16
No. Nymphs are Fae too.
Phoenixes, yes, especially bug phoenixes.
No, treants, not ents.
And...wait, coatls are loosely based on Quetzalcoatl...WE CARE ABOUT RIPOFFS NOW? tongue.gif Geez, you haven't seen the Ethereal in a while! Or, like, most of the rest of the world. sleep.gif
Desdemona2005-03-11 20:38:14
Hey, just because you've got some things based on other things doesn't mean there can't be a margin for originality... Not that my idea of the FOUR ELEMENTALS, being spirits that were said to inhabit the elements was original. Bug phoenix? What disgusting combination is that?

Fire dragons would be best. Also, it would be ENTs not Treants.
Shiri2005-03-11 20:44:14
Bug phoenix - well, if you played Sacrifice, you'd know what I mean. They're not the awesome noble phoenixes from Egyptian mythology (no, I don't care if they're "Bennu birds" or whatever), but they were pretty damn cool. Also, no, not dragons. They totally could not be villagers. And no, treants, not ents. tongue.gif
Desdemona2005-03-11 21:07:43
Who said dragons can't get villages? They could have a kingdom of true fire made dragons, flying across the fire plane breathing fire, almost immortal. With the mission of... um... hatching their fire eggs, to which they require a warm body to do the job for them, not their intense heat. So the quest would involve you the quester hatch fire dragon eggs, and guarding the eggs from the flames, sentient flames that only wish to totally ignite everything on their path with bursting fire. The fire dragons could also be considered somewhat as the ancestors of the Dracnari.

Edit: And it is ENTS -or- talking trees. NOT Treants.
Shiri2005-03-11 21:13:56
No, it's treants, not ents. biggrin.gif

But yes...problem is, they'd be too big. And like...dragon villagers just wouldn't work. MAYBE Draconians, but I mean, we have dracnari. So it's not gonna work. Besides, *point Dairuchi*. Gotta be the phoenixes! Preferably the bug ones!
Desdemona2005-03-11 21:23:13
Bug phoenix, imo, are just an insult to all fire birds. So NO bug phoenix. If you want bugs+fire go with fire flies. Also, the "kingdom" of the fire dragons could be a mount of blazing inferno, that no one NO ONE not even their so-called "descendants" can enter, without a special blessing from the Supreme Fire Dragon. So, every month, in a ceremonial event, the egg-laying mother fire dragon needs to fly to one of the more temperate areas of the fire plane to lay their mystical eggs. Upon this place is that you meet the dragons and are anointed as Egg Watcher Hatcher by the Supreme Fire Dragon.

It's ents. Treants are just a rip-off version of ents. wink.gif Or stick with simple talking trees.
Shiri2005-03-11 21:28:00
You haven't even SEEN the bug phoenixes, so lay off insulting them! tongue.gif Just like real mythological willowisps are nothing like ingame willowisps. So there.

And no. Treants. tongue.gif
Desdemona2005-03-11 21:45:19
Bug phoenix deserve a thumbs down. thumdown.gif Even so, the fire dragons would still be much better. tongue.gif

Also, I think you are wrong about the wisp. The wisp in Lusternia are EXACTLY what I'd expect them to be in myth a true will o' the wisp.

Treants are nothing. Makes me think of ants. It is ents! Or talking immobile trees.
Shiri2005-03-11 21:56:10
No, no! Real will'o'the wisps feed on people's fear and lure them into dark bogs.

And the D&D version electrocutes people too, which is fairly cool, but anyway. Ours are like...making people follow them around! And they're all shiny and friendly! (I mean, they jump into your hands and stuff when you feed them honeycakes.)

Totally different. And bug phoenix > fire dragon. At least for villagers.

And no, treants. tongue.gif
Desdemona2005-03-11 22:04:22
Um, whatever their function (as far as I know, they simply lure people away by the way), and are lights... they are will o wisp.

Also, bug phoenix are down. Fire dragons, majestic and titanic fire dragons are great.

Treants are nothing. Not even in my dictionary, so don't ramble nonsense tongue.gif. It is ents.
Shiri2005-03-11 22:16:49
tongue.gif Pff, if we're not looking in the dictionary, we'll be having no Taurians then. Besides, no, they're slightly different. The Lusternia willowisps are much nicer.

Also dragons are down for villagers. GO BUG PHOENIXES! (This is going totally nowhere. Agree to disagre? tongue.gif)
Desdemona2005-03-11 22:29:48
Nicer? Hey, they are only nice to you because they follow you. Are they nice to those you summon to simply kill? No. That is the exact same deal as a willowisp leading someone down a precipice.

Also, Taurians is a perfect example of an original concept based losely on an mythology: minotaur. No problem with that. If you need to be poking a dictionary, make sure it is up to date and labels every fanatasy race out there, because Taurians would be a new addition. wink.gif Speaking of Taurians, bad Icarus for reincarnating. He was the strongest Taurian out there... now he's just another Dracnari knight.

Regarding dragons and villages. Yes, villages are worthless. That is why I proposed a KINGDOM of fire dragons, which sounds awesome. More than those insult of phoenix...

By the way, I do agree to disagree, but I'm making sure to have the last word. wink.gif
Shiri2005-03-11 22:37:01
Pff, fine, I know your sort. whistling.gif
Desdemona2005-03-11 22:50:53
*gasp*

How mean of you. sad.gif

I can picture it now... Fire dragons for Fire. For Air, there could be the embodiments of the four winds, or 8 winds, each sending you with a different mission to do something, half of them as messanger missions taking you throughout Prime.
Shiri2005-03-11 22:56:06
Yeah, the head of the coatls could be titled the North Wind. happy.gif
Desdemona2005-03-11 22:59:35
Coatls? Erm, don't think so. Not that rip-off version of Quetzalcoatl. The Head wind, there wouldn't be such thing. If anything the winds would be competing for domain of the air plane and all of them with their own domain.

Their people could be the clouds, and air riders tongue.gif
Shiri2005-03-11 23:09:09
Head Wind is such a silly name. And no, no cloud people, or they'll be way too much like Kirby and I'll be sad when pounding on them. (HAH! See even Jasper agrees.) No, we'll have Coatls. If you have minotaurs, and I have taurians, coatls are fine. Now hush.
Desdemona2005-03-11 23:22:16
Nope, coatls not. Invent something. And by no means is Kirby a cloud... So why would you feel bad killing clouds? You wouldn't have to either, so... don't be so sentimental. tongue.gif

Maybe the cloud folks could at a time resemble horses, at another bunnies, at another simple formless clouds. Sentient clouds.
Shiri2005-03-11 23:24:15
Kirby is totally like a cloud. Coatls = yes! biggrin.gif

And you're just stealing from kelpies now, pff. tongue.gif
Unknown2005-03-11 23:25:07
I just wanted to get someone elses post on this page besides Shri's and Desdemona's laugh.gif Cant have them taking up the whole thread. And if you have been to Earth the Gargoyles are demented. Maybe having a village of just the Elementals would be good, like a City of Earth/Water/Fire/Air Elementals and what ever Seren has instead