Elryn2005-03-16 12:53:22
QUOTE(Shiri @ Mar 13 2005, 05:36 AM)
:/ Then Elryn was either dang lucky or faeling writhing is just ungodly. He was off Kaervas' crux in about 0.5 seconds. >_<'
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Wait a moment... I was crucified? Erk, just goes to show how aware I am in combat.
Shiri2005-03-16 13:27:17
*g* Either you have enough of a system to wait until you got balance, then writhe free of a crucifixion when you're bound, or you were just randomly mashing keys, then, 'cause you got out darn fast.
Elryn2005-03-16 13:30:28
Just a writhe trigger, for those nasty spiders in Glomdoring. I guess I owe those little beasties a pint or two!
Nayl2005-03-16 13:35:35
Long as I get 3
Thorgal2005-03-16 13:39:01
QUOTE(celahir @ Mar 16 2005, 12:35 PM)
Notice how they improve Crucified but downgrade Pinleg you can now sip health while Pinlegged which sucks.
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They basically upgraded pinleg and impale, rend is quite nice. You can't clot or outrift chervil while impaled or pinlegged. So just pin a leg with your left hand, rend, pin the leg with your right hand, rend, pin the leg with your left hand again, rend, etc.
To make crucify slightly more useful in one on one combat, it'd have to be changed to:
Having to writhe twice to get off the cross, once to writhe free your arms, from which point you can apply salves and drink elixirs again, and once to writhe free your legs. Also the damage it does, which depends on targets max health, should be a higher percentage, next to having the equilibrium recovery changed to 5 seconds, instead of 7-8 seconds.
Unknown2005-03-16 14:45:15
Here ya go Elryn, here's a very easy trigger for it for Zmud. You do use Zmud right?
#TRIGGER {%1 begins to chant in a deep and baleful voice, and an iron} {}
#COND {ground before you. Vicious spikes slam into your flesh} {} {within|param=1}
#COND {You scream in pain and agony as blood} {} {within|param=1}
#COND {directions.} {Insert echo or whatever variable thing here} {within|param=1}
#COND {%dh, %dm, %de, %dp {ex|x}*p-} {writhe} {nocr|prompt}
I use something sort of like that, I hate it when people don't use trigger states, and their echoes/commands appear inside the middle of the damn pattern. It's just ugly, and not very clean looking.
For example.
Rather then doing a pattern* like Amaru has, which is something like
and
You can instead do...
This will then cause the quote above, to look more like this (much cleaner and easier to read/comprehend)
3888h, 2853m, 3267e, 10p exkdb-
Kaervas hurls a tarot card with the image of the Hanged Man on it at you. As it
reaches you, a huge mass of rope bursts out of it, entrapping and hindering
you.
writhe
Kaervas flings a tarot card at you which turns an ominous, sickly red before
striking you in the head.
focus mind
3888h, 2853m, 3267e, 10p exkdbp-
Trigger states have many uses, what I demonstrated above is one of the simpler and general uses.
Edit: Oh, and there is the added bonus of being more resistant to illusions, since someone conjuring the illusion would have to illusion the entire thing, rather then say, just a small piece of it.
Edit Number 2: For the sake of Amaru, I changed the word "Trigger" to "Pattern", it is marked with an asterisk above.
CODE
#TRIGGER {%1 begins to chant in a deep and baleful voice, and an iron} {}
#COND {ground before you. Vicious spikes slam into your flesh} {} {within|param=1}
#COND {You scream in pain and agony as blood} {} {within|param=1}
#COND {directions.} {Insert echo or whatever variable thing here} {within|param=1}
#COND {%dh, %dm, %de, %dp {ex|x}*p-} {writhe} {nocr|prompt}
I use something sort of like that, I hate it when people don't use trigger states, and their echoes/commands appear inside the middle of the damn pattern. It's just ugly, and not very clean looking.
For example.
QUOTE
3888h, 2853m, 3267e, 10p exkdb-
Kaervas hurls a tarot card with the image of the Hanged Man on it at you. As it
reaches you, a huge mass of rope bursts out of it, entrapping and hindering
writhe
you.
Kaervas flings a tarot card at you which turns an ominous, sickly red before
focus mind
striking you in the head.
3888h, 2853m, 3267e, 10p exkdbp-
Kaervas hurls a tarot card with the image of the Hanged Man on it at you. As it
reaches you, a huge mass of rope bursts out of it, entrapping and hindering
writhe
you.
Kaervas flings a tarot card at you which turns an ominous, sickly red before
focus mind
striking you in the head.
3888h, 2853m, 3267e, 10p exkdbp-
Rather then doing a pattern* like Amaru has, which is something like
CODE
#TRIGGER {you, a huge mass of rope bursts out of it, entrapping} {writhe}
and
CODE
#TRIGGER {you which turns an ominous, sickly} {focus mind}
You can instead do...
CODE
#TRIGGER {%1 hurls a tarot card with the image of the Hanged Man on it at you.} {}
#COND {you, a huge mass of rope bursts out of it, entrapping} {} {within|param=1}
#COND {you.} {writhe} {within|param=1}
#TRIGGER {Kaervas flings a tarot card at you which turns an ominous} {}
#COND {you in the head.} {focus mind} {within|param=1}
#COND {you, a huge mass of rope bursts out of it, entrapping} {} {within|param=1}
#COND {you.} {writhe} {within|param=1}
#TRIGGER {Kaervas flings a tarot card at you which turns an ominous} {}
#COND {you in the head.} {focus mind} {within|param=1}
This will then cause the quote above, to look more like this (much cleaner and easier to read/comprehend)
QUOTE
3888h, 2853m, 3267e, 10p exkdb-
Kaervas hurls a tarot card with the image of the Hanged Man on it at you. As it
reaches you, a huge mass of rope bursts out of it, entrapping and hindering
you.
writhe
Kaervas flings a tarot card at you which turns an ominous, sickly red before
striking you in the head.
focus mind
3888h, 2853m, 3267e, 10p exkdbp-
Trigger states have many uses, what I demonstrated above is one of the simpler and general uses.
Edit: Oh, and there is the added bonus of being more resistant to illusions, since someone conjuring the illusion would have to illusion the entire thing, rather then say, just a small piece of it.
Edit Number 2: For the sake of Amaru, I changed the word "Trigger" to "Pattern", it is marked with an asterisk above.
Nayl2005-03-16 15:32:21
Yea, that's the start of an anti-illusion program.
Go Tuek, sharing knowledge with the world...
Now, if only I had said knowledge, and/or the time
to learn and give said knowledge.
I help where I can.
So, GO TUEK
Go Tuek, sharing knowledge with the world...
Now, if only I had said knowledge, and/or the time
to learn and give said knowledge.
I help where I can.
So, GO TUEK
Amaru2005-03-16 15:48:02
QUOTE(Anonymous @ Mar 16 2005, 03:45 PM)
I use something sort of like that, I hate it when people don't use trigger states, and their echoes/commands appear inside the middle of the damn pattern. It's just ugly, and not very clean looking.
For example.
Rather then doing a trigger like Amaru has, which is something like
For example.
Rather then doing a trigger like Amaru has, which is something like
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Don't assume you know how I cure
Unknown2005-03-16 16:15:51
QUOTE(Amaru @ Mar 16 2005, 05:48 AM)
Don't assume you know how I cure
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I just used a simplified example, Amaru, but the command was sent in the middle of the message, making it valid to example with which to explain trigger states. I know your curing is way more complex (then the simple focus mind/writhe example I showed), and involved variables being set to different values and such, and a queue, that just wasn't important for the sake of an explanation of trigger states.
Basically, you use the patterns I pointed out, not the reactions. I just explained a way to express the whole pattern, and trigger the whole message, rather then just a single line of it. What really matters is the reflex, not what pattern it is that fires it.
Amaru2005-03-16 16:19:09
I actually cure 90% of things at the prompt. It's my 'noob' trigs, IE the trigs which just require a single action and can only ever require a single action, with no balance, which can appear in the middle of messages. It does make things messy.... *chin*
Unknown2005-03-16 16:23:45
QUOTE(Amaru @ Mar 16 2005, 06:19 AM)
I actually cure 90% of things at the prompt. It's my 'noob' trigs, IE the trigs which just require a single action and can only ever require a single action, with no balance, which can appear in the middle of messages. It does make things messy.... *chin*
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Right, I'm just using a piece of the log as an example of how trigger states work, so that people can learn from it.
See, I try to do something nice, and look and what you go on do, darn well criticize me for it, I think I'll go mope and feel sorry for myself now. *laugh*
Amaru2005-03-16 16:27:46
Wasn't trying to criticise I thought you were implying I triggered part of hangedman to 'writhe', which in the world of IRE is a GRAVE INSULT!
Shiri2005-03-16 16:30:56
... No it isn't...
Summer2005-03-16 17:21:44
Depends on how you do it I think.
Gwylifar2005-03-16 18:34:56
Just use #send. Then you can send the command any time you like.
Terenas2005-03-16 21:26:59
QUOTE(Thorgal @ Mar 16 2005, 01:39 PM)
They basically upgraded pinleg and impale, rend is quite nice. You can't clot or outrift chervil while impaled or pinlegged. So just pin a leg with your left hand, rend, pin the leg with your right hand, rend, pin the leg with your left hand again, rend, etc.
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Was that changed recently? The last time I fought Alger, 2 days or so ago I was able to spam chervils just fine.
Gwylifar2005-03-16 21:33:08
You can eat it, but not outrift it, so if you already have some out, you're fine. In the arena, having one out is enough; in "real life", it's very much not.
Unknown2005-03-23 19:38:27
In Amaru's log he was stunned. So is he getting teamed or does crucify stun now?
Amaru2005-03-23 19:52:23
I got teamed.