Unknown2005-03-20 04:06:41
But, but, mages already have to do more setup than any other class. I also doubt they would create something that tacks on an extra 8-9 moves per room for mages then.
Unknown2005-03-20 04:08:40
QUOTE(Erion @ Mar 20 2005, 02:02 PM)
Your mom.
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Your mum.
Unknown2005-03-20 04:09:43
QUOTE(Quidgyboo @ Mar 19 2005, 10:08 PM)
Your mum.
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Stop raping my comedic genius.
Unknown2005-03-20 04:11:01
QUOTE(Jello @ Mar 19 2005, 10:06 PM)
But, but, mages already have to do more setup than any other class. I also doubt they would create something that tacks on an extra 8-9 moves per room for mages then.
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I imagine it would be best to have a mage set-up 4-6 shifts beforehand, then have someone lure a group of enemies into the room, then seal them in, decimate their forces with banish and unleash, then pick off the rest the old fashioned way.
Morik2005-03-20 04:14:56
.. and how would declare tie into that skill?
See, if its everyone, including allies and enemies, then you can't just drop it and hope that it won't effect your teammates.
If its only those you've declared, then its a /much/ more useful team skill as your allies won't be affected.
See, if its everyone, including allies and enemies, then you can't just drop it and hope that it won't effect your teammates.
If its only those you've declared, then its a /much/ more useful team skill as your allies won't be affected.
Unknown2005-03-20 04:17:44
DREAMWEAVING IS USELESS AGAINST MOONDANCERS BECAUSE TUEK AND NARSRIM NEVER SLEEP
It's also needing upgrades against Amaru.
It's also needing upgrades against Amaru.
Morik2005-03-20 04:24:57
QUOTE(Jello @ Mar 20 2005, 12:17 PM)
DREAMWEAVING IS USELESS AGAINST MOONDANCERS BECAUSE TUEK AND NARSRIM NEVER SLEEP
It's also needing upgrades against Amaru.
It's also needing upgrades against Amaru.
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Well, with the current state of 'sleep', if they get you to sleep and you don't wake up in time then you can fall into "badly needing sleep" which makes waking up even more difficult.
whee.
Sylphas2005-03-20 04:28:35
OMG, I LOVE these skills. Regardless of how effective it is, it's so much insanely cooler than Runes. Now I need a hit of credits to trans it out.
Singollo2005-03-20 04:28:39
QUOTE(Jello @ Mar 20 2005, 12:17 AM)
DREAMWEAVING IS USELESS AGAINST MOONDANCERS BECAUSE TUEK AND NARSRIM NEVER SLEEP
It's also needing upgrades against Amaru.
It's also needing upgrades against Amaru.
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Sh*t, I guess I'm going to get screwed over by the upgrades and/or downgrades again. Damn you Tuek and Narsrim, damn you!
Karrah2005-03-20 04:29:07
Someone give Karrah some sexy dreams!
Estarra2005-03-20 04:37:37
Might want to read the help file on dreamweaving.
Personally, I didn't imagine it drawing people who are really into combat as it is not nearly as offensive as runes at first glance. It is more an alternative for the sneaky mage/druid types or perhaps for the esoteric RPer. That said, players are an innovative bunch, so I wouldn't be surprise if they prove me wrong.
For those interested in its genesis, it was a skill we wanted in the first design but because of its complexity, never got around to coding it. Mages and druids were always meant to have a skillchoice in guild skills as all the other guilds have, and I was unhappy that we couldn't get it done before opening to give this skillchoice. However, I hope you enjoyed the event to open it!
Personally, I didn't imagine it drawing people who are really into combat as it is not nearly as offensive as runes at first glance. It is more an alternative for the sneaky mage/druid types or perhaps for the esoteric RPer. That said, players are an innovative bunch, so I wouldn't be surprise if they prove me wrong.
For those interested in its genesis, it was a skill we wanted in the first design but because of its complexity, never got around to coding it. Mages and druids were always meant to have a skillchoice in guild skills as all the other guilds have, and I was unhappy that we couldn't get it done before opening to give this skillchoice. However, I hope you enjoyed the event to open it!
Jasper2005-03-20 04:38:13
Make it so I can pooka people into their dreambody and make them go out of the sight of the Prime Plane! That was fun!
Rhysus2005-03-20 04:39:25
Definitely enjoyed the event to open it!
...definitely didn't enjoy losing a Trans skill and having to convert 90 credits to finally get a choice!
But that's business.
...definitely didn't enjoy losing a Trans skill and having to convert 90 credits to finally get a choice!
But that's business.
Singollo2005-03-20 04:41:57
QUOTE(Estarra @ Mar 20 2005, 12:37 AM)
Might want to read the help file on dreamweaving.
Personally, I didn't imagine it drawing people who are really into combat as it is not nearly as offensive as runes at first glance. It is more an alternative for the sneaky mage/druid types or perhaps for the esoteric RPer. That said, players are an innovative bunch, so I wouldn't be surprise if they prove me wrong.
For those interested in its genesis, it was a skill we wanted in the first design but because of its complexity, never got around to coding it. Mages and druids were always meant to have a skillchoice in guild skills as all the other guilds have, and I was unhappy that we couldn't get it done before opening to give this skillchoice. However, I hope you enjoyed the event to open it!
Personally, I didn't imagine it drawing people who are really into combat as it is not nearly as offensive as runes at first glance. It is more an alternative for the sneaky mage/druid types or perhaps for the esoteric RPer. That said, players are an innovative bunch, so I wouldn't be surprise if they prove me wrong.
For those interested in its genesis, it was a skill we wanted in the first design but because of its complexity, never got around to coding it. Mages and druids were always meant to have a skillchoice in guild skills as all the other guilds have, and I was unhappy that we couldn't get it done before opening to give this skillchoice. However, I hope you enjoyed the event to open it!
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You should have given them a choice between Hexes and Healing. That sure would have shown them!
Xenthos2005-03-20 04:44:41
There is a typo in the help file on dreamweaving. (discoered? Eeeeek! And "in this form, you dreamwalker cannot be seen by normal methods"?)
And the event was lots of fun
And the event was lots of fun
Gwylifar2005-03-20 04:46:35
I'm a little disappointed that dreamweavers don't get to weave dreams, or even dreamscapes. I was picturing something more surreal, tapping into lots of the common dream symbolism and imagery that's in all our minds, that's so rich with deep-seated psychological impact. Anyone watched What Dreams May Come?
I was thinking the dreamweaver might make an illusion that replaces the appearance of a room with something trippy and psychedelic which had some influence on you, and that impressions from those illusions would seep into the dreams of people sleeping nearby.
This dreamweaving seems more like astral projection than anything to do with dreams. Not that astral projection isn't also potentially useful, but it just doesn't have the colorful imagery and psychological symbolism to play with.
That said, I'm still insanely jealous just because in the Seren the guild that least needed an upgrade got a whole new skillset and is walking around doing incurable stuff to people with dizzying amounts of health and mana, while the Serenguard are still sitting around trying to figure out which sword to wave around ineffectually. It's getting hard to keep up morale when it feels like we're being told "you aren't going to get fixed so stop bothering to wait for it".
Don't listen to me, tomorrow I'll be okay.
I was thinking the dreamweaver might make an illusion that replaces the appearance of a room with something trippy and psychedelic which had some influence on you, and that impressions from those illusions would seep into the dreams of people sleeping nearby.
This dreamweaving seems more like astral projection than anything to do with dreams. Not that astral projection isn't also potentially useful, but it just doesn't have the colorful imagery and psychological symbolism to play with.
That said, I'm still insanely jealous just because in the Seren the guild that least needed an upgrade got a whole new skillset and is walking around doing incurable stuff to people with dizzying amounts of health and mana, while the Serenguard are still sitting around trying to figure out which sword to wave around ineffectually. It's getting hard to keep up morale when it feels like we're being told "you aren't going to get fixed so stop bothering to wait for it".
Don't listen to me, tomorrow I'll be okay.
Unknown2005-03-20 04:49:06
What I want is an explanation of this "dream world" it mentions. I mean, really, why is it there? Is it another plane, halfway between ethereal and prime, is it like the aetherwaves, or what?
Bricriu2005-03-20 05:07:13
I certainly hope some of the things they try and force are changed to be impossible soon - Like Rhysus, trying to force someone to Uncitizen Murphy, or forcing someone to try and kick a guard while at their nexus. Otherwise, I imagine this skill will be sorely abused.
Singollo2005-03-20 05:14:03
The abuse from forcing someone to kick a guard results from conglutination. It needs to dump you in a safe room within your city instead of at the Nexus.
Unknown2005-03-20 05:19:08
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