Unknown2005-03-25 23:24:18
QUOTE(Ceres @ Mar 25 2005, 01:21 PM)
Neither of us deffed.
The guy was an Imperial Merian.
The guy was an Imperial Merian.
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I suggest you retest, because as you said, you couldn't remember the exact numbers.
Ceres2005-03-25 23:33:37
Human with trans magic, resistance and draconis:
355, 298, 355, 298, 298.
Average: 321
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2880h, 2700m, 10p exkdb-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
2525h, 2700m, 10p exkdb-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
2227h, 2700m, 10p exkdb-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
1872h, 2700m, 10p exkdb-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
1574h, 2700m, 10p exkdb-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
1276h, 2700m, 10p exkdb-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
2525h, 2700m, 10p exkdb-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
2227h, 2700m, 10p exkdb-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
1872h, 2700m, 10p exkdb-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
1574h, 2700m, 10p exkdb-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
1276h, 2700m, 10p exkdb-
355, 298, 355, 298, 298.
Average: 321
Unknown2005-03-25 23:34:46
draconis is overpowered 
Ceres2005-03-25 23:34:59
Imperial Merian with inept magic, resistance and draconis:
415, 278, 224, 415, 224.
Average: 311
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2808h, 4882m, 4408e, 10p, 12645en, 23310w exk-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
2393h, 4882m, 4408e, 10p, 12645en, 23310w exk-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
2115h, 4882m, 4408e, 10p, 12645en, 23310w exk-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
1891h, 4882m, 4408e, 10p, 12645en, 23310w exk-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
1476h, 4882m, 4408e, 10p, 12645en, 23310w exk-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
1252h, 4882m, 4408e, 10p, 12645en, 23310w exk-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
2393h, 4882m, 4408e, 10p, 12645en, 23310w exk-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
2115h, 4882m, 4408e, 10p, 12645en, 23310w exk-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
1891h, 4882m, 4408e, 10p, 12645en, 23310w exk-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
1476h, 4882m, 4408e, 10p, 12645en, 23310w exk-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
1252h, 4882m, 4408e, 10p, 12645en, 23310w exk-
415, 278, 224, 415, 224.
Average: 311
Ceres2005-03-25 23:41:42
I sincerely apologise for my wrong figures. Further testing shows that I was wrong, and that you in fact take 10 more damage with trans magic than without, not 54.
Next!
Next!
Unknown2005-03-25 23:44:39
Don't average it. You do realize the difference in values are due to regeneration ticking at the same time as their attack, right?
By your logic, occasionally attacks from mobiles heal me.
By your logic, occasionally attacks from mobiles heal me.
Ceres2005-03-25 23:45:24
We both have honour and mercy.
Point?
Point?
Unknown2005-03-25 23:45:24
omfg mobiles are overpwoered
Unknown2005-03-25 23:46:06
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derr, me ceres, moonburst is healing me.
Unknown2005-03-25 23:47:02
So the difference between 415 and 355 is about 15% damage reduction. Sounds about right.
Ceres2005-03-25 23:48:57
What makes you think that they were the damages without regen?
Look, I'll do this all again with no defs..
Look, I'll do this all again with no defs..
Unknown2005-03-25 23:52:28
QUOTE(Ceres @ Mar 25 2005, 01:48 PM)
What makes you think that they were the damages without regen?
Look, I'll do this all again with no defs..
Look, I'll do this all again with no defs..
81644
You also have 2.5% more max health then he does from the looks of the log. That would account for why I am seeing it as just under 15% damage reduction (around ~14%). The mini-skills in the other realms were exactly a 15% damage reduction. Also, a level 1 resistance is *gasp* exactly 15% damage reduction. It seems like everything is adding up right, doesn't it?
Unknown2005-03-25 23:52:43
Look, someone who cares.
<----- Narsrim.
<----- Narsrim.Ceres2005-03-25 23:59:36
Trans magic, no defs:
Inept magic, no defs:
462 damage with trans magic.
611 damage with inept magic.
24.386252045826513911620294599018% reduction.
Thwarted again!
In other news, this means that starcall halo = trans magic. Nerf plz.
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2700h, 1858m, 10p ex-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
2238h, 1858m, 10p ex-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
1776h, 1858m, 10p ex-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
1314h, 1858m, 10p ex-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
852h, 1858m, 10p ex-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
2238h, 1858m, 10p ex-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
1776h, 1858m, 10p ex-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
1314h, 1858m, 10p ex-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
852h, 1858m, 10p ex-
Inept magic, no defs:
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2749h, 4792m 10p ex-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
2138h, 4792m, 10p ex-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
1527h, 4792m, 10p ex-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
916h, 4792m, 10p ex-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
305h, 4792m, 10p ex-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
2138h, 4792m, 10p ex-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
1527h, 4792m, 10p ex-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
916h, 4792m, 10p ex-
Simimi raises a palm which glows with a tiny pinpoint of light. The light turns
into a sparkling current of energy that slams into you, dissolving your flesh.
305h, 4792m, 10p ex-
462 damage with trans magic.
611 damage with inept magic.
24.386252045826513911620294599018% reduction.
Thwarted again!
In other news, this means that starcall halo = trans magic. Nerf plz.
Unknown2005-03-26 00:05:46
damn does sacraments suck.
Unknown2005-03-26 00:07:34
QUOTE(Anonymous @ Mar 25 2005, 11:41 AM)
Perhaps the Magic skill reduces Magic damage way to much, whereas Resilience reduces damage very little, and instead focuses on venom shrugging (which was apparently downgraded).
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QUOTE(Narsrim @ Mar 25 2005, 12:06 PM)
Actually, the problem that Tuek was addressing is that moonburst can be easily reduced by the Magic skillset... and reduced a lot. Whereas Resilence does reduce damage for Knights, Knights do so much more damage than a moonburst, there is a huge gap when comparing the two.
81545
QUOTE(Ceres @ Mar 25 2005, 12:33 PM)
Actually, Magic does very nearly nothing.
81583
QUOTE(Ceres @ Mar 25 2005, 01:41 PM)
I sincerely apologise for my wrong figures. Further testing shows that I was wrong, and that you in fact take 10 more damage with trans magic than without, not 54.
Next!
Next!
81632
QUOTE(Ceres @ Mar 25 2005, 01:59 PM)
462 damage with trans magic.
611 damage with inept magic.
24.386252045826513911620294599018% reduction.
611 damage with inept magic.
24.386252045826513911620294599018% reduction.
81656
So Transcendent Magic here is a 25% magic damage reduction here, versus a Level 1 resistance (I.E. 15%) like the mini-skills in other realms. Thusly, didn't you prove my point that Magic reduces magical damage by a lot, and by rechecking your results, you proved yourself wrong in that Magic did very little?
Unknown2005-03-26 00:14:24
So it is in my opinion, that the Magic skill, needs to have the resistance it gives magical damage to be dropped to a lower percentage, and as a replacement, give resistances to the other elements (Fire, Lightning, Cold, you know, the ones that actually hurt, compared to the relatively weak Magic attacks found in Lusternia). Why would you learn 300 credits into Magic so that a 400 damage magic attack will do 300, when that 1500 damage staffcast will still do 1500 damage.
Ceres2005-03-26 00:14:51
Did I not just say that yes, I was wrong?
Curse you for confusing me!
But yeah, they should give elemental resistance. We don't have Galvanism or other specific miniskills here, so it should be them all rolled into one. Not just a buffed version of constitution. Especially at 3 times the cost.
Curse you for confusing me!
But yeah, they should give elemental resistance. We don't have Galvanism or other specific miniskills here, so it should be them all rolled into one. Not just a buffed version of constitution. Especially at 3 times the cost.
Ceres2005-03-26 00:18:31
QUOTE(Jello @ Mar 26 2005, 12:05 AM)
damn does sacraments suck.
81658
Normally I just ignore your posts, but I'll call you on this one.
Halo is in Celestialism, not Sacraments.
If Paladins had Celestialism, I wouldn't complain
Unknown2005-03-26 00:19:55
Celestianism is overpowered.
And we're the only three people reading this I think
And we're the only three people reading this I think
