Karma and influencing

by Jalain

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Jalain2005-03-26 03:09:44
I was just thinking.. As a Faeling, it's easier for me to influence (now that I've worked out how to use Influencing) guards than it is to go kill Sandojin or Gila to help the nomads or mesa, or to kill the things the Monks want.. And it's kind of rare when you manage to get pilgrims when you wander around..
SOOO.. I thought, why don't we get karma for empowering our guards? I think it would make sense, at least, and it would give people more of an incentive to do more influencing.
Faethan2005-03-26 03:19:09
Questing, ratting, bashing all gain karma, Influence is the only one that doesn't. I think its a shame considering that Influence is unique to Lusternia, it should be made an attractive option.
Shiri2005-03-26 03:19:32
Agreed. happy.gif
Jalain2005-03-26 03:27:16
I love it when people agree with me.
Nyla2005-03-26 04:24:25
I can bash Spectre Isle in the amount of time it takes me to empower guards
Unknown2005-03-26 06:00:54
*bump agree*
Unknown2005-03-26 07:52:37
I do not agree.

Just kidding, I love it. Awesome idea wink.gif
Ialie2005-03-26 08:18:56
I love influencing, and I think this is a great Idea. I also think that there should be some way to influence and get essesnce to your god of choice.
Unknown2005-03-26 10:12:34
Agreed, you should gain karma for influencing.

I'd go furthermore to say, that due to what may be considered abuse, I am not sure if offering corpses should gain karma anymore, unless you were the one that killed it. I don't think people should be like "This person just killed me, can you go get me 100 Astral corpses so I can curse him" and so on.
Asarnil2005-03-26 10:21:04
its more like 200 astral corpses - the amount of karma you get from offering is still pretty minimal.
Ceres2005-03-26 11:03:57
4 corpses, 1%.
Asarnil2005-03-26 11:05:46
100 corpses = 25% karma which isn't enough to curse anyone unless they are a pkwhore. Therefore I am still more accurate with the 200 corpses comment than Tuek was with the 100.
Ceres2005-03-26 11:08:11
You'll be able to curse Murphy for 5 for quite a while. 17 suspects..
Asarnil2005-03-26 11:16:52
Murphy is a speshul circumstance though, the average figher will cost 30-40 karma to curse. I should know, I checked up on Amaru and Tuek when I had suspect on em a few times. biggrin.gif
Unknown2005-03-26 11:21:10
QUOTE(Asarnil @ Mar 26 2005, 01:16 AM)
Murphy is a speshul circumstance though, the average figher will cost 30-40 karma to curse. I should know, I checked up on Amaru and Tuek when I had suspect on em a few times. biggrin.gif
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We just aren't "griefers" like all of those Magnagoran "PK whores".




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Bully Status Days Left
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Marcalo Suspect 27
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Victim Status
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Tieleson Suspect
Uziah Suspect
Torgith Suspect
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Oh and Tieleson shouldn't even be on there. He cursed me, stripping one of my blessings, and it didn't remove the suspect status! I issued myself and no reply.
Asarnil2005-03-26 11:26:46
The only reason you don't have more is instead of standing and fighting someone to the death like Murphy, you serpent and walk away. Either that or heal/toadcurse the guy and then walk off instead of stomping em to death. *grin* Both of which you have done against me when I tracked you down during a raid.
Unknown2005-03-26 12:54:23
QUOTE(Asarnil @ Mar 26 2005, 01:26 AM)
The only reason you don't have more is instead of standing and fighting someone to the death like Murphy, you serpent and walk away. Either that or heal/toadcurse the guy and then walk off instead of stomping em to death. *grin* Both of which you have done against me when I tracked you down during a raid.
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I don't serpent and walk away if I initiate the combat. And you are the first and only person I've ever toadcursed and walked away. Though, I do often toadcurse my attackers without icewall up, to make them run away.
Asarnil2005-03-26 13:11:33
You don't consider wiping out an entire population of undead miners and guards initiating combat?
Shiri2005-03-26 13:12:38
Not with the person attacking, no.
Jalain2005-03-26 13:31:20
QUOTE(nyla @ Mar 26 2005, 02:24 PM)
I can bash Spectre Isle in the amount of time it takes me to empower guards
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And? I'm fairly certain Jalain would be kicked out of the Serenwilde if I had him go spiking for the karma from Spectres. And let's set aside the fact that he wouldn't last very long with the amount of HP he has, and without Puella, unless he has about 20 health vials on him.
But let's put aside those arguments. Not everyone is hack and slash, kill kill kill. Why should they be forced to either bash anyway, wait for hours for quests to reset, or make the tedious (no offence to the builders) walk around the Basin again and again in order to collect maybe 5 or 6 pilgrims?

Estarra and Roark gave us an awesome system in Influence, and I would personally like to see it used as a more 'mainstream' form of leveling.