Come on.. Can we please NOT highjack this topic? People have shown they agree with it, but even if it is a good idea, what Coder would want to wade through the highjack posts in order to find more input on the idea?

Heh, paranoid! I think that was his point. That he can bash rather than influence, for much more gain. And it shouldn't be that way.

And if I'm wrong, well, I make that point then.

Bad hijackers!

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I think you should get a tiny amount of karma for all influencing, not just empowering. Like quite a few people I know end up begging instead of complimenting.

You are careful to not attack people you have recently bullied.

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Is it more so than, say, bringing furrikin farmers back and forth between Estelbar and Acknor? In terms of village quests, it's identical to that. But it sure sounds more like an act of war when the dwarves start howling on the city/commune aetherwave, doesn't it? This is just an imbalance in the design of the quests.

I dont do the spike quest. I just kill them and offer them to Lisaera and sometimes Fain. I was comment when you said that since you were a faeling you could empower guards easily. Whereas I am also a faeling and I call kill things easier than I can influence.

How high are you in the infuence skill?

Was at expert, but forgot it all cause I couldnt influence anything

Seriously? I have 17 charisma and Virt influence, I can influence pretty much anything.

Trueheart and in my demesne and still couldnt influence anything

I don't know what those things are, but I can influence Queen Maeve in Faethorn in approx. 12 hits, with no defenses, just a bromide vial. Did you alternate attacks?

Trueheart and Demesne both boost the power of influencing.

I had the same trouble, but then I read Ialie's guide and worked out what influence type to use with that analyze message. Now I win every influence battle, even against big named MOBs.
That's what I wanted my website to be.. a site with hints on how to get certain things to work, or to work better.



Shiri, I don't suppose you could delete all the highjack posts? Please?

That table's very helpful, thanks. On topic, I think all the influence types should get moderate amounts of karma (perhaps a little less than the offering equivalent) but that empower should get extra, perhaps twice the offering equivalent.

Hm, I'm confused, why would empowering get twice? If that were the case, it should be like...uhm...offering to empower shrines of the City/Commune patron would...give you more karma. Y'know.

Empowering should get extra because making others stronger is obviously good karma. I suggested the others get less to balance it out.

Love it. I'm thinking "convert" influence battles

All influence battles should get you karma, except maybe city influence battles.

And you'd probably have to be in an Order in order to influence for a particular divine, or maybe a SWEAR ALLEGIANCE TO (God)... too easy to constantly switch allegiances otherwise.