Gloriana? WTFBBQ?

by Akraasiel

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Richter2005-03-28 19:48:26
Heh, I agree!

Kind of.

Suicided a week before... *giggle* he... *muffled laugh*... buhahaha

We'll write something about you. The silly bear that ran around doing stuff to raise the commune, but decided it was too much, and took his own life. Of course, Richter frowns upon suicide, even heartstop, so... you're likely to get a nasty helpfile. tongue.gif
Unknown2005-03-28 20:30:51
Actually, Guido didn't kill himself. I was going to leave behind a note explaining it all, but said "Screw it."
Auseklis2005-03-28 20:39:43
QUOTE(Thorgal @ Mar 27 2005, 12:34 PM)
Roark is NOT gonna code 3 guilds for Glomdoring, and another 3 guilds for Gloriana, just because there might be a choice between which of the two will be implemented.

I am pretty damn sure whether it's Gloriana or Glomdoring, has already been decided LONG ago, and I doubt that this decision is gonna be changed by anything we do or say, luckily.

Thank you.
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I had said something similar some time ago. Now, all I will say is, keep an open mind.

Oh, by the way, I am unlikely to be the leading god in anything in the near future, especially not Gloriana.
Unknown2005-03-28 20:58:56
QUOTE(Auseklis @ Mar 28 2005, 10:39 AM)
Oh, by the way, I am unlikely to be the leading god in anything in the near future, especially not Gloriana.
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OH EM GEE HE SAID GLORIANA AND NOT GLORIANA/GLOMDORING SO GLORIANA WILL COME BACK AND BE LIEK ANOTHER SNUGGLY COMMUNE!!!1!1!1one!!1

...I'm keeping an open mind!
Richter2005-03-28 21:04:14
I'm keeping an open mind.

And if Glorianna comes out, you'll have a small horde of us "evil" people joining it and turning it to our will.

At the very least, Glorianna would be engulfed in a civil war.
Elryn2005-03-28 21:12:43
I think if Gloriana came out, it would already be very, very evil.
Shiri2005-03-28 21:18:31
QUOTE(Elryn @ Mar 28 2005, 10:12 PM)
I think if Gloriana came out, it would already be very, very evil.
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Meh, I don't think that would be the case. :/
Jack2005-03-28 21:20:53
QUOTE(Richter @ Mar 28 2005, 09:04 PM)
I'm keeping an open mind.

And if Glorianna comes out, you'll have a small horde of us "evil" people joining it and turning it to our will.

At the very least, Glorianna would be engulfed in a civil war.
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Now, I almost hope it's Gloriana.

If you can't beat 'em, engulf 'em in a raging torrent of violence, eh?
Gwylifar2005-03-28 21:24:21
Maybe it'll turn out that Gloriana is dark enough that in the end, whatever comes will be both.
Richter2005-03-28 21:24:29
Edit: Ninjaed!

Re: Jack

Indeed.

If we get a "good" commune, I, and the people I know want to join Glomdoring will join Glorianna, and do our best to re-taint the whole thing. I mean, I need to keep with my character's RP, aye?

If it was "good", we'd have some serenwilders join, some pro-glom people join, and a smattering of magnagorans and celestians. Boy, that would be fun.
Rashidat2005-03-28 21:36:17
QUOTE(Erion @ Mar 28 2005, 11:52 AM)
Although, there is a lot of reason for the Glomdoring to hate cities.  Just because Rowena's tainted, doesn't mean she can't remember how everyone just ignored her and Mother Night's warnings, and how the Basin plunged ahead into the foolish Project Cosmic Hope.  Hell, it was Rowena, not the Moon Coven, that was at the meetings, begging the cities to hear her pleas.

The Moon Coven just screwed the cities over, and took what Rowena and the rest had suffered and struggled for, and are living off borrowed fame. tongue.gif
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Actually the histories show that Rowena renounced her prior concerns and fears about the taint. "I have been such a fool, etc." I see the much more intesting side of the Glomdoring being built around possession of the taint. Rowena actually believing she would lead the new order. She would be at the forefront of spreading the taint.

Don't forget that the mining villages now are uneven. 3 to be fought over by 4. Glomdoring could look at either Southgard or Angkrag. I would expect Magnagora to help them take Southgard. (they were willing to do as much for Serewilde). This then leaves Rockholm to be contested between Celest and Serenwilde. That is a sort of conflict that Magnoragora won't fail to see or push to make happen.

This will be the critical moment where it goes Celest/Seren vs. Mag/Glom or takes a more interesting turn.

I will say it now. it makes more sense for Seren stay clear of Southgard. The Seren will have to fight somewhere. If they fight at Southgard, they fight with/for Celest. If Celest takes Southgard, then you can expect Glomdoring to go solo at Rockholm. Magnagora will either fight with Seren against Celest at Rockholm or sit on their hands. It would be crazy for them to aid Glomdoring at Rockholm. Alone Glomdoring is no threat to take Angkrag early on and pissing off Serenwilde is not something they want to do.

That could make things very interesting.
Desdemona2005-03-28 21:37:28
Why wouldn't Gloriana return evil? Gloriana died and was resurrected... you don't think all the memories of their time being Glomdoring, memories of their ruin would be forgotten? If Gloriana returns, it would return with a tumor caused by utter remorse towards that which caused it's undesired change, the things that abandoned it, and the thing that didn't listen to it. In fact, Gloriana should be nicknamed Odius. Be plagued by people who want to plot the downfall of cities, steal from Serenwilde the wonders they lost, and things like that.
Elryn2005-03-28 21:58:36
I'd like to see an evil Gloriana that is accepting of the Taint, but isn't actually tainted. The difference may appear superficial, but I believe essential.
Rashidat2005-03-28 22:01:25
CODE

SEREN NOT INVOLVED AT SOUTHGARD

Southgard: (Celest) v. (Glom + Mag)

Rockholm:  (Seren + Mag) v. (Celest)
      or:  (Seren) v. (Glom)

Angkrag:   (Mag) v. (Glom)
     or:   (Mag  v. (Seren??? or Celest???)

IF SEREN AIDS CELEST AT SOUTHGARD

Southgard: (Celest + Seren) v. (Glom + Mag)

Rockholm:  (Seren + Celest) v. (Glom + Mag)
      or:  (Seren + Mag) v. (Celest)

Angkrag:   (Mag) v. (Glom)
     or:   (Mag) v. (Seren??? + Celest?)
     or:   (Mag) v. (Celest??? + Seren?)



As is shown, the easiest road for Seren is to stay out of Southgard.

This of course assumes the villages will open for influencing in that order.
Unknown2005-03-28 22:03:42
Meh. I'd like Gloriana that doesn't give a rat's patooty about concepts like good or evil. Good and evil is for those piles of rubble called cities.
Shiri2005-03-28 22:05:12
You lost me with that one, Rashidat. blink.gif If that's what I think it is, it's wrong.

So I'll assume it's not what I think it is. What is it?
Desdemona2005-03-28 22:14:55
I think it is kind of difficult to think out of good and evil. Though it would be excellent it we could. It would be better if all places simply acted to their best interests and be judge according to their actions, rather than base their actions around "good" act "good" and be judged as "good". Gloriana/Glomdoring or GLOMGLOR should be known as the savage land of the lunatic. Yeah, completely insane, knows no reason, cares about nothing more than itself, and it is dangerous to deal with.
Rashidat2005-03-28 22:18:20
it shows a basin with Glomdoring. It shows a basin with three mining villages. It shows those villages opening up for influence in that order. It shows two different outcomes. One is where Serenwilde fights with Celest to keep Southgard out of the hands of Glomdoring. The other is where Serenwilde lets Celest fight on their own to keep Southgard.

EDIT: When Southgard was last open, Magnagora held the door open for Serenwilde to take the village. Serenwilde refused. After a long period time Celest finally claimed it. If the exact same thing happens next time, and Glomdoring is around, The results will be very different. Glomdoring won't think twice about taking the village. The only question is whether Serenwilde will take sides or stay neutral.
Shiri2005-03-28 22:31:07
Then aside to some flaws in it which for the sake of simplicity I'm going to assume aren't in fact errors and are simply me being tired, you're not taking into account that Serenwilde and Celest aren't going to go for Angkrag. Yeees it's within realms of possible RP, but they'd be making excuses for it (well, uh, we could...ahah! Educate the Viscanti so they don't do that stuff to dwarves! Bad Viscanti!) rather than following what they're doing now, so it's not going to happen.
Erion2005-03-28 22:33:16
They really can't. They'd have to kill all of the undead, and then influence the orcs. Which are few and far between.

In the meantime, Glom/Mag comes in and crushes them like no tommorrow.