I think he was referring to Project Cosmic Hope, where something was going one way and completely reversed and Celest screamed "Overpowered! Nerf please!" and then the Taint was nerfed to not Taint things.

He's not talking about anything like that. He's talking about Project Cosmic Hope.

And, I LIKE the belief that Elder Gods are flawed, and aren't all powerful. It's one of the many facets of Lusternia that make it Lusternia, and loveable.

I didn't say that there was any event such as that, nor do I believe there should be. I was merely relating the events to the near release of Almighty Kethru. It was believed that the events leading up to it were going to bring peace, and power to the world, yet the result was just the opposite. That sets precdence that the storyline is not above rapid plot roundabouts. That being said, what's to stop the release of a part of Gloriana from rebounding and bringing about the rise of Glomdoring? None of us mortals really know, thus we shouldn't complain until the events have seen themselves all the way through.

But then I may just be talking out of my *ss. -shrug-

Suddenly, this post makes a lot more sense to me.

Agreed, it does seem an absurd thought at first. But, given that a Soulless God could overpower several Elder Gods, and it took hundreds of Vernal Gods just to imprison a Soulless, wouldn't it be likewise concievable that a large number of mortals, working together with, say, Mother Night, and using a large amount of power (say, from the Megalith, focused through the Ravenwood) could counter-act the actings of an Elder God?

I mean, a single Merian undid everything that nine Vernal Gods did, just by linking a node. Although the seal was already weakened, Ladantine single-handedly released Kethuru.

Perhaps if there were several hundred mortals storming a god, there might be a slight chance of disrupting the ritual. This was not, however, the case.

I'm sorry I missed this. I will make one statement and preface it by saying that it is not ment to offend in anyway. For the pro-Glomdoring forces to think that they are the only ones A) Interested in Glomdoring/Gloriana and B ) that they are only ones who have ever put any effort or organisation into it, is a little arrogant.

I cant help thinking that all the typos in here are freudian...

I know. It was more or less just me offering a situation. As I said, I like the idea that gods are not all-powerful. It just gave me tics wondering, if Soandso was all-powerful, why didn't he just snap his fingers and destroy Thiscity?

The belief that Elder Gods are arti-whores, and morts are just novices fresh out of the portal was instilled in a lot of us from the fact that even Estarra can't destroy the Soulless, without destroying the fabric of creation.

I'm going to be a sarcastic prick right now, so. "no offense". I don't see anyone saying anything like that. Hell, most the people who've been posting anxiety against the Gloriana aren't even in the pro-glom movement. So, oh em gee ess tea eff ewe. Get it? Actually, everyone that's IN the movement has been posting POSITIVE FEEDBACK. So, once again, eff see, kay? Ewe pea.

In otherwords, stop pointing fingers. And, from what I understand, this was Lisaera and Viravain, not the Serenwilde. Lisaera just got on CT and said she wanted all of them to come. Although I'm hearing some things that a few of them have been speaking to mobs, etc, and it all led up to this. I'm not certain.

But, next time, before you start shooting off your bloody mouth, sew it shut.

I think the issue here is the feeling that players get that the story is pre-determined and they are just along for the ride. Any attempts to change the story will be shot down, and you don't really have a say in what happens. Most players would much rather have a sense of driving the story, where the outcome of a battle changes the direction in which the world heads. By making this a safe room, the players were put in the first scenario, both the Serenwilders who were there and just had to watch, and the Magnagorans who wanted to interfere but couldn't. I think MUDs are much more interesting when the admin come up with 'alternate endings' instead of forcing the event to one ending regardless of player actions.

I think this is one of those story-lines that has a pre-defined end, but the road to get there isn't blazed just yet. Although, as a player, I find it slightly disheartening when you run to mobs to try and see what can be done and all they do is moan about missing the Gloriana. Not unexpected, but slightly twitchy.

You can go yourself Erion because I seem to recall another thread where you called Serenwilders misguided and foolish for thinking Gloriana could be reborn.

And, if you noticed, I wasn't saying they should try, I was just saying that, as far as game mechanics go, it just didn't make sense. And it still doesn't.

And I think YOU are a bit misguided, and I hope you get a nice little bump in your red bars for that.

If they really wanted to force it towards a pre-defined ending (which I really dislike the idea of) they could've done something a bit more creative than just make it a safe room. Summon animals to guard the room from those who sought to disrupt it, make the forest fight back the attackers. Something to give an advantage to Serenwilde, but still make both sides feel like they got to do something. Simply making a safe room is the equivalent of saying "f--- off" to all the people who want to participate but aren't on the same side as the admin want.

It's just one small step. It's not the end-all-be-all of this event.

If it is, then I'm going to just quit. I believe the Admin can do better than that.

So the admins made a safe room and revived it into Gloriana. Maybe perhaps they didn't want all the fightings to occur because that's -all- that have been done in the past whenever something like this happened? Like all the people that said it, sit back and see what comes of all this.

P.S.- anyone notices this is similar to when the admins introduced Karma?

Mods! Mods! Open use of the F word! Censor Cron plz.

Why doesn't it make sense? Because you say it doesn't? I had no intention of being insulting. Not a one. I made it perfectly clear from the get go that if Glorian was fubared, so be it. It was still a fun and entertaing line of thought for my character to pursue. I've been more then respectful to the Glomdoring crowd on these boards. 95% of the return was Gloriana is dumb it is for snuggle bunnies. Lately all the talk was that Glomdoring was a for gone conclusion. That is arrogance. Maybe Gloriana is still a pipe dream. So what. I wouldn't expect otherwise considering how many people would threaten to leave the game if the thought of Gloriana was even entertained.

There it is editted is that better.