Yes, Gloriana does not have to be the way, but you are forgetting one important thing: the people.

If glom and seren fought it would equal it out, becuase now the forests would leave the cities alone whice = mag vs. celest & Glom vs. Seren hmmm balanced? Yes... I think that's actually probably the best thing that could happen, then maybe the forests would actually leave the cities alone more and stick to historical RP. In short I think it would actually balance the game much more...

This wouldn't happen. Seren would still team with Celest, and Glom would team with Mag. It's just too obvious to not work this way. I would be shocked if it didn't degrade to these relationships within weeks, if not days, of Glomdoring's opening.

I make no assumption about alliances or how the groups will interact. However, if there is no Taint, there is no inherent reason for Celest to treat them any different than Serenwilde. Similarly, if there is no Taint, there is no inherent reason for Magnagora to treat them any differently than Serenwilde.

Imagine the existance of a second Tainted City. You can have one Tainted city that is all for the positive evolution of the world, trying to make everybody stronger through combat, and you can have one Tainted city that is trying to bring death and destruction to the world.

The same could be said about Celest Clones.

If it were Gloriana, Magnagora would still be pitted against Gloriana because of one simple fact: its not Tainted. If somethings not Tainted, then its considered an enemy.

All it would take would be for Lisaera/Auseklis and Fain/Raezon and other gods involved to say:

1. It would be in the best interest of Serenwilde/Gloriana/Glomdoring withdraw all relations with Celest and focus on dealing with Serenwilde/Gloriana/Glomdoring

2. Our foe isn't some stupid forest... it is the bastards of Light/Taint that dwell in X/Y city. We have spent too many resources fighting the wrong people and need to divert our attention back to our main goals

Wrong again. Auseklis could lead Gloriana and he's very "Taint is not the enemy, blah blah blah." Remember, Serenwilde wasn't anti-Magnagora till Magnagora declared war on Serenwilde. Don't make the same mistake twice.

See what I said above. Its not Tainted, therefore an enemy of Magnagora, therefore Magnagora is fighting against 3 states.

You've forgotten something: the gods have repeatedly said they do not play a major role in Lusternian politics. They let the players decide it, they let the players roleplay how they want.

Says who? With enough background development that doesn't have to be the case.

Thats far to iffy, If it went bad, it would take a --HUGE-- amount of devine intervention to fix a 3v1 situation...

What says Hallifax and Gaur-whatever won't be Tainted?

You mean how like with enough background Development Celest could be an imperialistic City bent on world domination?

The whole frozen in Time thing. Hallifax is the only one of those options that has a historical slight possiblity of being Tainted, and even then, its really really slight.

So why can't something happen as they become unfrozen and get tainted in the process by some devious plan of Raezon/Fain? Christ, did creativity just up and die.

Well, its been said time and time again that the Taint no longer has the transformative powers it use to, so any Tainting that happened would not be pernament, and could be reversed. Oooh wouldn't that be fun. Quests for Celest and Magnagora to Taint or Light the H/G cities, ofcourse, then Celest would not try to Light the cities and Magnagora would try to Taint them, and the H/G cities would hate Magnagora for trying to change them.

And it is therefore 110% impossible for Fain/Raezon to be able to somehow taint a city that isn't even in the same dimentsion/time? Correct me if I am wrong but isn't Raezon all about learning the dark magics of the Soulless... what if he was able to empower himself to do it...

Coming up with longshot possibilities is not a sufficient argument for why Gloriana would be acceptable instead of Glomdoring.

Hmm your right, perhaps Raezon and Fain should Taint all of serenwilde tonight while Lisarea is sleeping, since you know, they can do that type of stuff.

I've really lost a lot of respect for you with a comment like that. I've always considered you to at the very least be more open the possibility of seeking an IC solution instead of moaning like most people. Whereas it is quite unlikely that Fain and Raezon could Taint Serenwilde because they are in fact protected by other various Gods whose focus of power is greater there than Fain or Raezon, I still don't see how Fain or Raezon could not act upon some event yet to happen to taint Hallifax, etc.

Example:

By releasing Karma upon the Basin and revealing the ancient seals, Estarra miscalculated the effect. Given X or Y, Fain and Raezon were able to empower the Taint and force it upon Hallifax/Gau-something, devouring them outside of time where the effect of Taint is substainally stronger/different/something, blah blah blah. The staff is far more creative than I. It could be feasible.