You don't have to worry about any of this, we were just bored and fancied untainting one room. That was the event!

One word... and I cant say it here.. darn

That makes it worse, not better. Now You invoked the ultimate, unstoppable 'safe room' power for something that was actually both irrelevant and also beyond player control. Why should I bother logging in? If playing has no effect on the world, why not just read forums? If it is just being bored and wanting to try something fun, why not actually make your players defend territory like everyone else has to do instead of just fiating that everyone else take their ball and go home?

I wish some people really would grow up, how the hell does this benefit any person in any way, you all seem to think this is some massive conspiract to make Serenwilde win.

Gods are there to roleplay and add things for you to work from, so take what you were given run with it, research away to try and retaint the area, do whatever you think you must. Don't just sit here and whinge because you couldnt stop some roleplay happening by killing everyone that was within a 5 mile radius.

go olan!

Ok, I think that may have gone down wrong.

That was a joke. I had assumed the pure ridiculousness of that statement would have made it clear, but apparently not.

I didn't get a chance to stop Project Cosmic Hope. That is -so- unfair. Wah.

What's wrong with 'flavor' events that have no intrinsic purpose? It adds to the setting.

I hope the admins/gods do more of this kind of stuff. It gives the setting more life.

AHEM!

-clear throat-

This entire discussion was completely redundant because...

Roark is NOT gonna code 3 guilds for Glomdoring, and another 3 guilds for Gloriana, just because there might be a choice between which of the two will be implemented.

I am pretty damn sure whether it's Gloriana or Glomdoring, has already been decided LONG ago, and I doubt that this decision is gonna be changed by anything we do or say, luckily.

Thank you.

As opposed to the rediculousness of making an event room a safe room? Of having an event, or start/part of an event, that didn't allow any player interaction from any side other than your side? If you want people to take seriously your serious remarks, and understand your sarcastic ones, you'll actually have to show a distinction between the two, instead of having them both look the same and making us GUESS.

Olan, what would ahve happened if you guys had got in killed all the serenwilders? you were going to tackle the gods next?

EDIT: Think I am goign to complain that no matter what I do the gods ignore me, I can't tear down all the cities, its impossible its all totally and completely unfair and you all suck


I so needed to get that out of me.

Personally, I woulda loved charging in there just to have Lisaera crucify/sacrifice me within two seconds. That woulda been hell cool.

I'm with the Glomdoring group on this one, 'cause...yeah, wish I could NOT think that the Gloriana would end up like Serenwilde, but I can't bring myself to believe that. I don't think there are quite enough Gloriana people for SUCH an incredible leader or 10 to make SURE it goes the right way.

You guys could all use a break though. Simmer down, geesh. :/

Exactly. If a Glomdoring Commune were to stick to its 'RP' as so many people like to complain about, then it would be no Forestal saviour for Magnagora. Rowena is won't play second fiddle to Ladantine or Magnagora. So anyone expecting Glomdoring by to establish game balance by evening the playing field, or making it 2 vs. 2 , needs a little whack with the RP stick.

A Gloriana Commune is the more likely balancing factor. With another Commune Serenwilde wouldn't need to lean on Celest or vice versa. That makes the game effectively 1 vs. 1. Celest vs. Magnagora.

You seem to forget one thing Cron. As long as the land is tainted, Magnagora doesn't really care one way or another what happens. We are the Engine of Transformation, aka the Taint, and our sole purpose in the game is to engineer the world covered with the Taint. Anyone and anything untainted is contrary to our values and beliefs, and will eventually come into conflict with us unless they become tainted.

Which is why there are a lot of Magnagorans who fear if it is a Gloriana instead of Glomdoring because 3 vs 1 will turn Magnagora into the same situation as Stavenn in Imperian (thats currently - early on it was Antioch) or Mhaldor in Achaea.

Well that's a larger issue then. If you look at it that way then Glomdoring is only a temporary stop-gap. What happens when Ackleberry, Halifax, or Guadich return? Then you have 3, 4, 5 vs. 1 or 2. That hardly makes make Glomdorig a true balancing factor. It becomes a plug stuck in a hole in the dam. If you want game balanced established, IMO you need to add another factor besides Taint vs. non-taint. Gloriana does this. Gloriana will force Serenwilde to turn away from being aligned with Celest. Bringing back Gloriana establishes the Commune vs. City conflict that is currently somewhat lacking.

I have never seen multiple forestal groups ever come in conflict with eachother. We tried it with Khandava and Celidon, and it didn't last too long. Even Ithaqua tried a bit, and really only the anti-magick stuff stays. Anti-magick is like the Taint, in its own little way. Its a nice simple concept people can grasp and don't have to read 30 page papers on the culture of science to know how to properly RP it.

An evil commune that has nothing to mark it as evil will stay evil only as long as the founding leader is active and telling members to stop acting a certain way 24/7

While my cohorts will shoot me for this...

Those of us working pro-Glomdoring obviously hope to snatch some leadership positions. We've, obviously, talked about things like relations with cities, communes, etc, and I can guarantee you if any of us manage to grab positions of power, you won't see Mag in the Woods. You probably will see a commune that does not like Magnagora or New Celest, and won't ally with Mag. But they'll take their help if it's offered. And you won't see anyone that isn't a Glomdoring communite wandering the commune, either.

Who's to say that Kethuru WASN'T trapped in Gaudiguch, and when it's released, there will be a sudden surprise - OMG, it's tainted1!11one211on

Or that Gaudiguch doesn't think "Hey, the Taint is simply a method of change. We love change. Let's help them!"

Substitue Gloriana in there and you'll see things somewhat from my perspective. Except I personally don't have much interest in a leadership position. I kind of view Gloriana as the British Isles vs. The Roman Empire.

I still can't comprehend how Glomdoring will establish game balance.

For future reference, it is -Gaudiguch-