As I understand it, the events were being handled by the Patrons. I'd take a wild guess and say that maybe because of OOC stuff, the people running the Geomancer thing weren't about for those 14hrs but the people running the hartstone/aquas were?

I'm sure Athana told Revan.

Considering I'm not in Hartstone, and I heard things through other people, I can't sit here and give you quotations of Lisaera helping. As always, I could be completely wrong in what I said regarding another guild, seeing as I'm not a part of it.

Well, I was involved in a section of the quest were we had to locate the next ingredient. The only clue given was that it was in the water. I'm running like crazy through Moon River looking for something... not sure what. Nejii and several others are going crazy in the Inner Sea (we sorta ruled out the Sea of Despair). Vix and Niara and several Hartstone headed to the Plane of of Water... and someone says at random, I killed this dreem leech and this thing fell out... is this important? What do you call that? Dumb luck.

We literally got this part in like 5 minutes... and it could have taken hours upon hours if some person not involved killed the leech and paid no heed.

Someone PMed me what happened? Did Glomdoring go poof or what?

That's great. I'm glad you liked how you did it... and I'm glad you wouldn't change it because that means it was worthwhile. However, surely you can agree that 15+ people looking for a random item are going to have a harder time than 45+ people.

Do you remember how Bloodloch never had an event turn out in its favour because even in our own city with super guards, we still got beat down by 500 Enorians? I vividly remember you saying how it sucked that events came down to who could slaughter who and not the actual IC context of the event... change of heart that you are the city with the bulk of the fighters?

I see no comparison here. Two different IRE muds, two different cities, different guilds. One doesn't relate to another.

And I have no idea what "event" you're talking about that involved Enorian slaughtering Bloodloch, aside the -individuals- who slaughtered guards and they all weren't Enorians.

Then again, as I said, completely different IRE muds and the situation tends to be void of comparison.

It was that whole Chakrasul event where we had that high priestess of Rahn. We were locked inside a room with 15 Nazetu and Enorian still came in, killed all of us, and literally picked the girl up off the floor and thus ended the event to their favor (in the end).

Furthermore, themes can parallel. The people at the ritual were noncombants. The argument you are trying to make is that because X-faction has more fighters than kill Y-faction which tends to be pacifists, X-faction should get events in their favor. Sorry, last time I checked Lusternia was not a hack/slash mud.

Hilarious. Purely hilarious.

Avialle picked that girl up right off the floor when NO ONE was in the room with her and she wasn't a citizen of Enorian. She was a citizen of Spinesreach.

But since you want to compare, let's...

Yeah, I was angry that the event ended in the favor of them simply because it was deisgned to end that way, no matter what could've been done by mortals. And yes, I'm angry that, again, the same thing happened in Lusternia. I have no care if it was about PK or not nor do I care who's favor it was in.

The point I make is that it's less fun in a RP sense when the Divine design events that have a one-way result. I'd be just as angry if Fain or Raezon "rigged" an event in our favor. It makes the point of RP rather moot. When Divine directly get involved in an event such as this one, it tends to tell us wee mortals that no matter how hard we could've worked to turn the event around or delay it, whether it be through PK or RP, it would all be for naught.

Now, had it been an event where Fain and Lisaera "had it out", that would've been awesome to witness on both sides, regardless of the outcome.

Point blank, when it comes to RP - there has to be a line that's not crossed. Divine vs. Divine is ok. Mortal vs Mortal is ok. Divine vs Mortal is not ok. And that's where Lisaera crossed the line.

Unless I'm mistaken, the event just started not ended. Thus, you didn't "lose" per se. I have this sneaky feeling that this part was designed to be pro-Seren because Serenwilde is about to get shafted hardcore with the Glomdoring thing and won't be able to stop it... but mind you, they did restore a room... woohoo?

You seem to be hellbent on the idea that because one room in Glomdoring was restored that suddenly it is all over... omg, you couldn't save one room so now you have no chance for the rest of an event that you don't know anything about... so what? What will it mean in the end? Probably jack.

meh i wish i still had the logs...

and I'm not sure how but Munsia knew all the ingredients to the potion before some of the tablets were even found...Athana had just found the frouth tablet and she already like "it should be 5 wormwood and the last one is from a dream leech" Ask Niara she was there!

Both Fain AND Raezon are that cool that they can leave the citizens to do all the manual grunt work and trust that it will get done. That they don't need to sit over Magnagora babying them is more a testament to the usually awesome interaction between the various factions within Magnagora that we can work together as a city1 to get anything done than anything else.

What Silvanus2 said about if Gloriana comes out untainted them having to be our enemy is true. We might be able to work side by side for a while, but eventually it will come down to a fight, because Magnagora's sole purpose is to bring abou the change and transformation that the Taint brings. Otherwise we wouldn't have had the title Engine of Transformation added on. Anything non-tainted eventually MUST become our enemy, unless they embrace the taint.

Personally I can't wait to see what happens next, because I know that theres a good chance of the current dynamic being shaken up majorly. Wether Gloriana/Glomdoring comes into existence or not is moot for me - I am just happy something interesting is happening.

Oh and just to join on the bandwagon, I would have quit this game ages ago if it wasn't for Thorgal and his wonderful systems. I could spend a year and a half just staring at my monitor with the Lusternia window open, because its just that damned pretty.3 Well not really, but a lot of the draw to me for Lusternia for a while has been the ability to use Thorgal's system and I highly suggest that any of you who want a cool looking system that works well to look into it.

1 When all the factions work together, Magnagora as a force is pretty much unstoppable. If one of the factions is working by itself, it fails badly - as we saw in the Dreamweaving event where the Geomancers spent more time trying to exclude the rest of the city from helping than actually doing the event.

2 I am pretty sure it was Silvanus who said this, but I am not sure and I am too lazy to look back on the posts and check.

3 Yarr a plug! But it is well worth it nonetheless!

Again, dumb luck...

dumb luck that you know all the ingredients for something without having the recipe?

If you TRULY believe that Narsrim, you are even thicker than I took you credit for. Thats about as likely as a true novice coming out of the portal and within an hour working out and completing both Newton quests and jumping over to Stewartsville and completing the Murder quest.

Munsia knew the ingredients because of a bug with Ridien which I quickly fixed, unfortunately she wasn't bright enough to recognise that she should have been ignoring it.

If I spoonfeed my guilds, the other Gods must be truly vicious to theirs because it's extremely rare that I get involved with their affairs at all. Also - the Hartstone aren't even my guild. As for the Geomancer event, I can assure you that you got the dreams at the right times, and it was mainly due to you kicking out the people who knew what were doing that it took a while...

Since I was working closely with Estarra throughout the entire event, and nobody seems to have more than a friend of a friend telling them a rumour they overheard that I've been too active in it, you can see why I'm not taking it seriously.

heh it really -is- dumb luck
...that's Munsia

Oh boy, so much fuzz because one room in Glomdoring got untainted. These complaints because Lisaera made the room during that event a safe room are just ridicilous. Three Divine beings were there, you don't want to tell me that anyone would have attacked, or?
I still have no clue if this is part of a greater event, I just think it was to show us that it is possible to return Glomdoring to its former Gloriana...maybe as it is possible to make Glomdoring a Commune.
When I look at the complaints I really wonder. I still remember Magnagora say that it has no interest in Glomdoring or was that....a lie? No way, that cannot be.