Yes, restate what I wrote... Magnagora thrives in Destruction, failure, messed up experiements, Change

I did not say it was good for the basin, I said it was good for magnagora, so if I was being all Magnagoranially biased, I would be promoted more such experiments and changes, not suggesting that Serenwilde think about its attitude towards things in modern history.


So evultionary speaking, I am a bacteria in but my name is homosapien? Gloriana was the evolutianry prestep to Glomdoring. It changed and mutated into something else.

You apper to be sticking value judgements where none are being made.

Touchy now arn't we?

Nobody said 'I told you so'


I will wager however that if Serenwilde spent more focus on its history and the attitude of Serenwilde while the taint was happening, and kept the views of the city mentality being bad, and not just cities are bad and the taint is worse, the players and people would not have been so encouraging and supportive of glomdoring getting destroyed completely and replaced with Gloriana completely.

It appears to me that most people who argue serenwild'es positions on this board do not see a difference between Nature mentality and City mentality, but rather just see a difference on values and names. I.E, you can replace the Word Light, Taint, and Great spirits or nature around all you want. If the Light was attacking Serenwilde they would be pro taint, and trying to taint anything, and if Nature was attacking serenwilde they would be mowing down the trees, just like Magnaogra does and just like Celest does...

Magnagora the Goddess is Destruction thrives in destruction.

Magnagora the city doesn't thrive in Destruction. In fact, it suffered first hand a destruction that came in shape of change. Or are you all giddy at the moment that Viravain is whaling at the whole Basin? If you dare say yes, then I say then so is Celest and Serenwilde because we also are on the whole survivng.

Also, Magnagora would be dead. Magnagora was a man down, if it weren't for Marilynth you'd would've stayed down forever. Oh, and Celest thrives despite the destruction of it's former empire... so by that logic, then also Celest thrives despite all the screw-ups of their past, Destuction, Chaos, etc. Ah, and Serenwilde... last giant standing that hasn't been changed at all by the Taint. I guess Serenwilde has outdone itself, we are the only real dinousaur alive.

Oh, and no Gloriana is just a name. So let's say forest X was there alive, it got sick with Taint, thanks to Marylinth it engage on a process of mending... at the cost of losing most of it's inhabitants, commune, most of it's power, Nexus, so basically the forest you had at the moment it was a "thriving" wasteland. Evolutionary speaking you can't consider Gloriana a failure because it had survived until the Taint and managed to survive the Taint thanks to intervention. Else, Gloriana would be dead.

...erm. The Serenwilde would be focusing on its background a LOT LOT LOT less if they didn't want Gloriana back in lieu of Glomdoring. The cities have nothing to do with it. It wasn't the CITIES trying to bring Gloriana back. It was Viravain. We don't LIKE the Taint. We DO like Gloriana. ...I don't think I even need to continue on that point. Surely this is obvious.

Oh, and you're implying that "destroying" Glomdoring and "making" Gloriana is worse (or hell, comparable) to "destroying" Gloriana and "making" Glomdoring. We're REPAIRING Gloriana, not REMAKING it.

It's a biased point of view. Glomdoring is not broken, it does not need repairing, what you do -is- remaking.

Remaking would require to complete begin creation from the very begining. Instead Serenwilde is being Taint-like and transform the forest into something else, perhaps something that resembles it's former self: Gloriana.

Ok, transforming then, same thing for me. It's still not repairing, as there is nothing to repair.

Well, I like it the way it is.

Viravain cannot Repair. She can only Make. Thus, by Her own words, She was reMaking. She is a creator, not an upkeeper.

Still, it would've been the same thing as the Taint did to Gloriana in the first place. At least I believe it would've been.

Sort of.
It doesn't change the fact that it wasn't repairing what Viravain was doing, and someone was arguing it was.

Eh...I think in this context the two are very similar. The context I meant was "make from scratch," which this isn't per se. It's like...um...scrubbing away the dirt, finding blueprints, and putting stuff back on top of it.

She's more tearing the walls off of a house, and building back around the steel structure. Which is reMaking, not repairing.

No, Viravain was simply switching wallpapers and repainting the facade.

It was a bit more drastic than THAT.

That would just be a demesne.

Aye, she was definitely remaking. Much like puella rebuilds a broken body, or conglutinate reforms a dead one, I imagine.

...which is almost exactly like repairing.

There's a big difference between taking off a single bad piece of wood from the dock, and tearing off all the wood and putting a different kind on.

repairing implies that something is broken.. glomdoring is not broken. There is nothing about glomdoring that says its broken, unless your going to say viscanti or magnagora is broken. In which case your either saying based on a OOG (out of game) bias and not looking at Lusternia as its own world, or an IC (in charachter) bias, because the histories and mythology are very clear (atleast to me) that destruction is as much a part of the basin and the lusternia universe as creation is.