Ah, of course. Tainted things aren't ruined! Taint was just a poorly chosen word by the admin... they should have said the touch of a Soulless God gives everyone Change.

For all that you CONTINUALLY accuse me of avoiding IC reality, how can you not acknowledge that even though your character feels differently, the Taint is the epitome of dark and twisted perversion?

Angel + taint = demon.

Not tainted angel.

Not evolved, stronger angel.

Demon.

So, viscanti are broken, Magnagora is broken... we need to be repaired!
Psh...

That's what we think IG, y'know. We're healing the Basin from the Taint.

Oh, you're agreeing, sorry I misunderstood your post, didn't read it carefully.

IC and IG yes you are 'healing the basin' but OOC/IG you are destroying the forests as much as you are making the forests. OOC/OOG You are getting rid of the christian concepts of demons from the celtic concept of forests.

in an OOC/OOG manner, demons and taint is a dark twisted force, with all the negetive connotations you have.
However, Estarra ICly does not care if the forest is Tainted or Not, therefore in an OOC/IG manner, Deamons and taint are dark and twisted but in a neutral connotation. I.e Twisted means it has been bent differently than what was before. Just as a Cable is a Twisted Series of steel threads. It is no more evil than a Volcano eruption is evil, or a waterfall is good.

Estarra however does care if Kethuru is around, but does not care if Magnagor or the Glomdoring or the blasted lands are Tainted, Flooded, or covered in Forest.

Oh, that's different matter. I think it's OOC board isn't it.
IC, you're biased, see things the way you want them to be, no problems with that.

Forests aren't celtic concepts.

Well your not viewing the forest in the manner that Capitalist Lumbermills in Brazil have a concept of forest...

I don't think what Estarra thinks should particularly influence anything, IC or OOC, because as is necessary for the game's survival She doesn't particularly care about much of anything that goes on. Bringing that one up's a bad one.

I think I know where the problem is coming from here. Daganev, you're not talking about looking things objectively from an ooc standpoint. You're talking about looking at things from a purely game mechanics viewpoint. Taint isn't bad or good, its just a flag.

How many times do I need to repeat.. I'm looking at things from a Lusternia's Universe perspective. Not game mechanics, not sides, but the story and Universe that was created for us to enjoy and play in. I'm not going to say Lollipringle didn't exist because she doesn't have an NPC, burial ground or otherwise coded marker that points to her existance. Its in the histories and story of the world.

The way I see it, Taint is the same thing as Evolution as viewed during the 1800s by certain groups of Christains who saw it as being completely evil, ungodly and not something to be discussed as legitmate.

Estara ICly cares about Kethuru, so I wouldn't say she doesn't care about anything. She Also certainly cares about new things she creates and always pops in to see how people enjoy them. She also has gratitude towards Roark and all that fun stuff. Estarra is as much an IC/IG entity as she is the OOC/OOG Administrator of the game known as Lusternia as part of the IRE line of products.

Well if we can't care about what Estarra doesn't care about, let's all be united and happy because after all, the only REALLY bad thing is Kethuru. And we all hate the Taint for no readily apparent reason, 'cause it's not ACTUALLY bad, it's really just like water, although for some reason we should still dislike the cities and not act like them because they released it.

What cities released, was not the taint how is it now, it was basically Kethuru, who almost destroyed everything.

Oh, good point there.

But of course, releasing Kethuru is apparently our fault this time, so we're all even.

(NB. I'm being sarcastic, in case anyone thinks I even remotely believe that.)

Um, evolution doesn't reanimate dead things, warp twist and destroy, and is not championed by ancient evil forces of pure destruction.

I think that view is VERY icly biased.

Not completely your fault, but you had some part in it.

OOC evolution doesn't, for now...
And a lot of people are reanimated in hospitals, they die but are brought back. How do you know what will we be able to do in future? (Here, IRL)
Weapon of mass destruction surely doesn't destroy...
What do you mean by championed by ancient evil forces of pure destruction here?

Thats your view on evolution. During the 1800s however, Evolution turned Monkeys into humans and turned humans into mere animals and not spiritual beings, thus removing the humanity out of humans. Evolution could also be said to be the cause of Nazi's views on race.

You may think evolution is a fine and dandy thing, but if you look at the Evolution and Creationism thread, not everyone agrees. However in reality we don't have the option of picking which parts of the world we agree with and which we don't. But in games like Lusternia, where various gods are present, and there are supernatural forces that appear to be everyday things, charachters can like or dislike whichever supernatural force they choose.

In the real world we argue wheater it even exists or not, in Lusternia our charachters argue which one should be destroyed and which one kept.

1. ...uh, yeah.
2. We come back as mindless zombies? Or liches? :/ Or in our original, complete state?
3. It's not as though we like THOSE either.
4. What do those points actually have to do with what's being discussed?

You're right - living even after death is such a horrible, disgusting thing.

And no one EVER said Taint = Evil. Erion was an evil Celestine. Didn't mean he was tainted. At least not for a loong time.