Taint and Light are both harmful to Nature, stop ignoring the fact that Cosmic is anathema to Nature. Also, can you really make the power conflict between Light and Nature insignificant? Light by converting fae is basically saying, no we don't want you we want THIS THING instead, so we'll just change it to our will. To me, that is a 100% threat. Also, the reason why the Taint at one time was more volatile than the Light at some point was thanks to Kethuru's will. What if the Taint had always been within Shallamar? Though, the Light surely mislead it's followers. It was thanks to the followers of the Light and their expansionist thought lead to conquest (thus building an empire) and further explotation of outside powers. Remember also the first reaction of when the plane of Celestia was found, the Nature folks didn't really like it.

Des, we've been over the cosmic/nature thing. I thought we agreed to disagree. I'm not going to fall back into arguing that point, because the paragraph of the histories I quoted justifies my position quite admirably, I feel.

I'll just say, cosmic is NOT the antithesis of ethereal. Different, sure.

Well then stop bringing up the same argument, because if the whole game points out that Nature (Ethereal) doesn't mix up with Cosmic, then your argument will be not really true if you think otherwise. No matter how colorful your argument is.

Maybe you just need another even where they again prove that Cosmic doesn't mix with Nature. Hopefully this time Celestia would be invovled instead of Nil.

And Nature and Cosmic are Anathema to each other, meaning that: they curse each other, abhore each other, condemn each other.

If you wish to say that Light was more passive than the Taint during it's begining, then I agree it's manifestation was less harmful to Nature but it was slowly working to replace it. Therein lies the whole conflict of power, Cosmic trying to change whatever lies within Nature. By the way, take a look at the Faes. Faes are Ethereal, if the Light says "No, we won't have you. We want Cherubs, Archangels, Angels, Seraphs". There clearly, clearly shows that it is either one thing or the other.

How exactly does anything you just said prove that Taint can be a part of Nature?

Desdemona, we had this argument. We concluded that nature and cosmic are not anathame. Stop trying to use it as an argument. 'CAUSE IT ISN'T ONE.

We concluded that Nature and Cosmic are anathema? Such thing didn't happened, if anything we agreed on disagreeing. But, seeing how you say it isn't wrong... I'll keep insisting that it is.

And Elryn, my argument wasn't stating that the Taint/Light can live with Nature. It was otherwise. Though, taking look at Glomdoring you have a specimen that was able to endure the Taint and mend as best as it could.

Then why are you arguing with me? I've been saying that Taint and Nature are antithetical.

Don't try to turn things upside down. If you try to use it as an argument, I'm going to point out that it's not the case and thus can't be used as such.

What are you saying, Shiri? Makes no sense. I'm not twisting anything.

as cosmic and nature magics were anathema to each other.

Ignore that for your convinience. Ignore the whole deal of what happens when you Taint/Water a place, that both Cosmic planes transform ethereal fae into something else. It would be simply dumb. Countering that Nature and Cosmic don't mix, that would be pointless and invalid.



Who started arguing? I said that just as the Taint is harmful to Nature, the Light is too. Hence, Cosmic is harmful to Ethereal and anything "Nature" within Prime.

Err, isn't that just a nature elemental infused there?

Yes, it is a nature elemental infused there.

And no, Desdemona, these things were explained already, but as you didn't want to hear it in the last thread, there's little point repeating it here. What I'm saying makes perfect sense, you just need to think about it and stop trying to twist facts to fit the theory.

I am not twisting facts to any theory. I am connecting facts and drawing a single conclusion based on that fact.

(Serenwilde): Moralis says, "Ah want tuh apologize tuh dah commune..ah know
whut gregori shays..but ah can't leave mah ladeh.."

Oh please oh please oh please oh please.

*laughs at Glomdoring*

Heh, what is the reason people hate Moralis? I really don't pay much attention to him, Is it only the way he talks? Probably if he ever moves elsewhere, he will be more fluent in common.

No, it's also that he takes pacifism to very silly extremes (and issues people for killing him with no IC reason, which he announces over CT) and...well, there's a lot more than just his accent, but trust us, that ain't all.

Heh. Makesh heem join Glomdoring, joo peoplesh. (Damn, that made my fingers burn. Better not try that one again.)

My issue with him is that he goes around demensing areas that are battlegrounds (like Glomdoring) and then complains loudly on CT when people remove his demense and kill him for coming to defend it, because he's a pacifist.

Taint does not equal Nil.

Just like Purity of water does not equal Celestia.

Earth is Tainted, Nil it Tainted, Magnagora is Tainted the blasted lands are Tainted Glo is Tainted.

Cosmic and Ethereal are Anethema to eachother, I don't see how you can argue that they arn't.

Nil is Tainted Cosmic, to think otherwise is wrong. Eath plane isn't taint it is Tainted Earth element. Both Elemental planes are purificiations of the elements, so when you purify water you remove the rest of the things. But let's stop this argument... I really dislike the real extensive argument we had last time.

Yes its Tainted Cosmic, but it is not Taint itself.

Taint can exist outside of cosmic, it can exist in astral, it can exist in earth, it can exist anywhere, including nature. A tainted forest is not called 'lifeless forest' or 'petrified forest' or 'deadwoods' its called ...TAINTED FOREST... its an adjective a modifier, that is all.

This discussion is getting off topic...

*point title*

If it's going to become nothing other than an argument, I think it has served its purpose, and we should close it.

Resume talking about the topic, hmm?