Rhysus2005-03-31 12:53:46
QUOTE(Elgar @ Mar 31 2005, 07:03 AM)
Bah and they told me they kept the shop closed out of fear the prices would skyrocket since Magnagorians and Serenwilders would come clean it out.
I'm to believing in Celests goverment.
I'm to believing in Celests goverment.
86066
That's a matter of your own personal misunderstanding. It is not that prices automatically increase when they are bought to a certain level. It is that by having the shop open, citizens of the Serenwilde and Magnagora can also purchase commodities, so in order to provide our citizens the best possible pricing, we had for a long time kept the commodity shop closed such that the most stock was available for the fairest prices. Now that it is open, prices will necessarily increase as a function of the increased demand upon the shop, so the accessability is a tradeoff for the fact that it is now subject to free market demands which often cause inflationary spending.
Thule2005-03-31 13:11:58
I think the fact that someone bought all the steel within half an hour shows why Celest had kept the shop closed in the past. Sadly I guess it was priced too low. I have begun to remedy that.
Shiri2005-03-31 13:28:03
That was probably us, after the Celestians pinched all our miners. Good RP or not, it was a rather bad faux pas. (Good Magnagoran engineering if Daevos was as involved as I hear, good Amaru Being Patriotic if he wasn't. )
Elgar2005-03-31 13:29:14
Rhysus,
I think someone just explained it to me wrong or perhaps I am indeed so stupid. And I haven't bothered reading up on the realm's economic system. But anyways It brought me to become an enchanter and now I am rich. I don't trust Celest goverment for other, RP reasons.
And citizens just ran to Serenwilde to buy comms. If more Celestians did commquests the person buying out the store would of been darn rich. I mean 150 steel is like 22K. Who would spend that ammount, wich goes to the city anyways. Just to annoy a few merchants? And granted certain artifacts cost 2000 credits and are used to just annoy a few celestians.
I think someone just explained it to me wrong or perhaps I am indeed so stupid. And I haven't bothered reading up on the realm's economic system. But anyways It brought me to become an enchanter and now I am rich. I don't trust Celest goverment for other, RP reasons.
And citizens just ran to Serenwilde to buy comms. If more Celestians did commquests the person buying out the store would of been darn rich. I mean 150 steel is like 22K. Who would spend that ammount, wich goes to the city anyways. Just to annoy a few merchants? And granted certain artifacts cost 2000 credits and are used to just annoy a few celestians.
Shiri2005-03-31 13:33:50
22k is NOTHING to some people.
Elgar2005-03-31 13:35:32
but still, it goes to the city (unless the comm store has a magic gold drain to the divine)
Shiri2005-03-31 13:39:18
But gold is much easier to find than comms. Comms, while they're in theory as infinite a resource as gold is, have a much thinner pipe to the tap.
Elgar2005-03-31 13:48:22
thats why they have to do more comm quests, more stealing dwarves and such. I mean Serenwilde doesn't seem to have the problem and alot more people go shop there then anywhere else.
Gregori2005-03-31 13:51:03
We also have a very healthy supply of reserves for most Comms in case of emergency, like I dunno. We suddenly have no dwarves. First thing I did as Marshall was have the trade ministry accumulate reserve comms for instances such as this.
Iridiel2005-03-31 14:14:41
Celest comm shop offered decent prices when you could manage to find the shop open.
In my last 3 weeks as celestian, I didn't see Jem even once, nobody had a key, even being an aide to trade didn't help you find a key, so it was basically an useless commshop.
Unless somebody and their friends were getting all the comms and saying there were no keys, of course.
In my last 3 weeks as celestian, I didn't see Jem even once, nobody had a key, even being an aide to trade didn't help you find a key, so it was basically an useless commshop.
Unless somebody and their friends were getting all the comms and saying there were no keys, of course.
Unknown2005-03-31 14:38:50
QUOTE(Iridiel @ Mar 31 2005, 04:14 AM)
Celest comm shop offered decent prices when you could manage to find the shop open.
In my last 3 weeks as celestian, I didn't see Jem even once, nobody had a key, even being an aide to trade didn't help you find a key, so it was basically an useless commshop.
Unless somebody and their friends were getting all the comms and saying there were no keys, of course.
In my last 3 weeks as celestian, I didn't see Jem even once, nobody had a key, even being an aide to trade didn't help you find a key, so it was basically an useless commshop.
Unless somebody and their friends were getting all the comms and saying there were no keys, of course.
86123
That's because there are no keys. City Lock is a privilege that Aides to the Chancellor get.
Iridiel2005-03-31 14:45:09
The commshop definitly had a key, I've seen it being opened at least twice in front of me. And some mags broke the door once.
Elgar2005-03-31 14:51:04
Yep, Celest commshop has a key I think it was originally done so the trade aides could get a copy, they just never got arround to copying them, or never trusted their own aides
Rhysus2005-03-31 15:04:18
I've always had a key to the commodity shop. I advertised this fact regularly. The fact of the matter wasn't so much that we were all that interested in trying to price gouge everyone when the shop was closed. It was more that we were trying to provide commodities to our citizens at more or less cost. Enough to keep things rolling, but not so much to hamstring any of our merchants. It was considered preferable for a time to take what commodities we did have and regulate their sale to our own merchants so that the tradeskills they were using would be better served than the tradeskills of Magnagorans or Seren. Unfortunately the relatively lackluster performance of past Ministers of Trade made the system a bit cumbersome and only increased my personal workload, so the eventual decision, and yes you may laugh at my use of eventual in the utter manifestation of understatement that it is, was made to switch back to a standard system.
Sylphas2005-03-31 15:07:34
I was so tempted when Dreamweaving first came in to lead someone through the door and buy you guys out. Of course, it would have been bug abuse, I wouldn't have had nearly the money to do it, etc, etc.
Iridiel2005-03-31 15:40:43
There was also some kind of attempt to give commodities to the cartels at cheap prices, but I don't recall having seen that done.
Erion2005-03-31 16:42:11
QUOTE(Elgar @ Mar 31 2005, 08:03 AM)
Bah and they told me they kept the shop closed out of fear the prices would skyrocket since Magnagorians and Serenwilders would come clean it out.
I'm to believing in Celests goverment.
I'm to believing in Celests goverment.
86066
The logic for keeping the comm shop closed was it kept the rarer commodities (When I was MoT, the first one, whom started all of this, Gems and Steel were exceptionally rare) in the hands of Celestians, and at much cheaper prices.
Of course, I used to double the price of gems and sell them to Mags, taking half the gold for myself, which lead to serious price drops in gem commodities (Down to 60 and 70 a comm, when Mag was seling them at ~200 a comm), and was still charing double of 130.
Val made off like a damn bandit. I did, too. We (We being Qaletaqa and I) decided that if we were to open the comm shop to the public (IE Serens and Mags) then we would raise the prices.
I imagine Jem and those whom proceeded/followed her raised them anyway, and kept it closed. Oh well. I still made off like a bandit.
EDIT: Oh damn, look, there's a second page. And I really don't intend to read it, so if I'm repeating something, yea. Oh, and, yes, the city comm shop has keys. I had a copy for a very long time. It's silly to think I handed in my only copy.
Elgar2005-03-31 16:57:18
I admire you Erion, if I was allowed to use this info in game I'd worship you.
*wonders how he'd look as tainted merian*
*wonders how he'd look as tainted merian*
Erion2005-03-31 17:41:52
Hehe. I like Erion's desc.
He is a fiendish viscanti and is pale in colour, his pallid, rubbery aqua-blue skin drawn tight over lean muscle. His dark, slanted eyes glitter slightly, giving this once Imperial Merian a mocking look. Long facial features are framed by waves of silky, sea-green hair, glistening with drops of water left to intermingle with his hair. Around his right eye are criss-crossing lines, reminiscent of the pattern of a snake's skin, yet are visible only for a short radius, before fading completely. At one corner of ice-blue lips is a silver stain, dancing as if forever in the moonlight. Lanky arms compliment his strangely increased size, coupled with equally long legs. Where fins once rose from the side of his forearms, the webbing is now mostly gone, leaving sinewy black spines that glisten darkly, contrasting greatly the feathery, angelic wings that have erupted from the flesh of his shoulderblades, golden feathers mixing with blood red and black feathers, occasionally spasming, with no mind payed by this once regal Merian.
He is a fiendish viscanti and is pale in colour, his pallid, rubbery aqua-blue skin drawn tight over lean muscle. His dark, slanted eyes glitter slightly, giving this once Imperial Merian a mocking look. Long facial features are framed by waves of silky, sea-green hair, glistening with drops of water left to intermingle with his hair. Around his right eye are criss-crossing lines, reminiscent of the pattern of a snake's skin, yet are visible only for a short radius, before fading completely. At one corner of ice-blue lips is a silver stain, dancing as if forever in the moonlight. Lanky arms compliment his strangely increased size, coupled with equally long legs. Where fins once rose from the side of his forearms, the webbing is now mostly gone, leaving sinewy black spines that glisten darkly, contrasting greatly the feathery, angelic wings that have erupted from the flesh of his shoulderblades, golden feathers mixing with blood red and black feathers, occasionally spasming, with no mind payed by this once regal Merian.
Unknown2005-03-31 18:11:11
Wish I knew it opened, would have ran by to check out prices. ::mutters:: only comm shop I don't have any prices for
EDIT Damn sig still not coming up ::weeps::
EDIT Damn sig still not coming up ::weeps::