Thorgal2005-04-02 10:41:52
A paladin loboshigaru can get pretty high regen:
2 racial, +1 from artifact, +2 boosted regen, +1 honour, +1 mercy...
Effective level 7 regeneration.
2 racial, +1 from artifact, +2 boosted regen, +1 honour, +1 mercy...
Effective level 7 regeneration.
Unknown2005-04-02 10:43:23
QUOTE(Thorgal @ Apr 2 2005, 12:41 AM)
A paladin loboshigaru can get pretty high regen:
2 racial, +1 from artifact, +2 boosted regen, +1 honour, +1 mercy...
Effective level 7 regeneration.
2 racial, +1 from artifact, +2 boosted regen, +1 honour, +1 mercy...
Effective level 7 regeneration.
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Honour counts as a racial regeneration, so it will not stack with the two racial and the one from the artifact.
Edit: See the HELP ARTIFACTS DEFENSIVE scroll if you don't believe me.
Thorgal2005-04-02 10:47:15
Eh.. just go test it if -you- don't believe me 
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.Unknown2005-04-02 11:00:59
QUOTE
Regeneration Rings
 - These rings provide the equivalent of level 1 and level 2 racial regeneration advantages. They are cumulative with racial advantages, or any other regeneration ability.* Total regeneration may never exceed level 3.
*NOTE ON REGENERATION: Regeneration abilities include totem spirits
like moon, tree and river bonds, stag form, moon drawdown, sacraments honor, athletics regeneration, lich form. It does _not_ include regeneration by items enchanted by Mercy and Perfection.
 - These rings provide the equivalent of level 1 and level 2 racial regeneration advantages. They are cumulative with racial advantages, or any other regeneration ability.* Total regeneration may never exceed level 3.
*NOTE ON REGENERATION: Regeneration abilities include totem spirits
like moon, tree and river bonds, stag form, moon drawdown, sacraments honor, athletics regeneration, lich form. It does _not_ include regeneration by items enchanted by Mercy and Perfection.
I think that is pretty self-explanatory.
Soll2005-04-02 11:04:45
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Health regeneration - "How quickly does your health rise when you are damaged?"
WHAT ALWAYS AFFECTS HEALTH REGENERATION
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enchanted items with mercy charges
boost and regeneration abilities
WHAT AFFECTS HEALTH REGENERATION WITHIN LIMITS
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Racial bonus to health regen:Â Â 1-3 levels
merchant enchantment:Â Â Â Â Â Â 1 level
The total of levels that will affect health regen is 3. Having a total of
levels beyond 3 is allowed, but will not increase health regeneration
rates.
WHAT ALWAYS AFFECTS HEALTH REGENERATION
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enchanted items with mercy charges
boost and regeneration abilities
WHAT AFFECTS HEALTH REGENERATION WITHIN LIMITS
----------------------------------------------
Racial bonus to health regen:Â Â 1-3 levels
merchant enchantment:Â Â Â Â Â Â 1 level
The total of levels that will affect health regen is 3. Having a total of
levels beyond 3 is allowed, but will not increase health regeneration
rates.
Ceres2005-04-02 11:38:47
Self-contradictory, that.
Says you can get a racial level 3, but then Mercy will always add to it, but you can only have a max of 3.
Myself, I reckon it's a left over help file from Achaea and not representative of the truth of the matter, which seems to be as Thorgal said.
Says you can get a racial level 3, but then Mercy will always add to it, but you can only have a max of 3.
Myself, I reckon it's a left over help file from Achaea and not representative of the truth of the matter, which seems to be as Thorgal said.
Unknown2005-04-02 11:45:56
No damnit. Racial regeneration is capped at level 3. Two things count as Racial regeneration.
1) Racial regeneration itself/Artifact racial regeneration
2) Certain abilities
What doesn't count as racial regeneration:
1) Mercy and Perfection enchantments (A la Boar and Moon tattoos)
2) Possibly a few other abilities (Honor is specifically listed as capping with the racial regeneration)
So, you can get at least a level 4 regeneration, 3 of those levels from any combination of racial things (Racial/Artifact/Certain abilities). The fourth is always Mercy/Perfection. There may be a few abilities that don't count as racial regeneration, like boosted regeneration, but I'm not entirely sure, since the Help files contradict, one refers to boosted regeneration, and the other to athletics regeneration. So I'm assuming the one referring to athletics regeneration is correct, and therefore stacks for a max of 6. Regeneration abilities that are a constant mana drain don't cap, because you are giving something up in order to have the health regeneration.
1) Racial regeneration itself/Artifact racial regeneration
2) Certain abilities
What doesn't count as racial regeneration:
1) Mercy and Perfection enchantments (A la Boar and Moon tattoos)
2) Possibly a few other abilities (Honor is specifically listed as capping with the racial regeneration)
So, you can get at least a level 4 regeneration, 3 of those levels from any combination of racial things (Racial/Artifact/Certain abilities). The fourth is always Mercy/Perfection. There may be a few abilities that don't count as racial regeneration, like boosted regeneration, but I'm not entirely sure, since the Help files contradict, one refers to boosted regeneration, and the other to athletics regeneration. So I'm assuming the one referring to athletics regeneration is correct, and therefore stacks for a max of 6. Regeneration abilities that are a constant mana drain don't cap, because you are giving something up in order to have the health regeneration.
Gwylifar2005-04-02 13:59:33
QUOTE(terenas @ Apr 2 2005, 12:35 AM)
You can keep regeneration up all day with Perfect, but if you're doing any serious fighting or bashing, it will eat up your willpower like nothing. I've used up 6k willpower just clearing out Water Plane, it's sad.
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Hmmm. I keep both regeneration and boost up at all times, and I can hunt for about three hours in Astral and end up down about 10K willpower. Hunting out the Water Plane doesn't even bring me down enough to notice it or have to meditate. I wonder why it's hitting you so much harder.
Gwylifar2005-04-02 14:01:36
Boosted regeneration and athletics regeneration are the same thing. Athletics has a Regeneration skill that raises a defense, and then later, a Boost skill that raises another defense that makes the first one more efficient; I don't think it's a higher regeneration rate, just a lower mana cost for it, but I haven't tested that.
Unknown2005-04-02 14:22:05
I know they are the same thing. However, I believe the one file is somewhat outdated, and is referring to the KAIDO boosted regeneration, whereas the other specifically says athletics.
