By the way, what is the Catholic Chruch's stance on the Holocaust?

It is the most disgusting thing, ever.

...and it is?

The Pope has died.

E Nomine Patri, E Fili, E Spiriti Sancti

(In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit).

First question I got asked when my parents came home from a 7 day holiday in Wales wasn't "How are you?" it was "Is the Pope dead? I thought you might know from those internet people." They were upset about it, yeah. :/ (They're Catholics.)

May he rest in peace.

Now. Someone answer my question. What -is- the Church's stance on the Holocaust.

That it is the most horrible thing ever.

What's that all about then?

Thats the media. Pope John Paul fought against the Nazis. No one in their sane mind owuld disagree that the Holocaust is one of the most horrible things, ever.

I still don't get it but ok.

during the actual holocaust the vatican quietly sanctioned the actions of the nazi's, though those actions were retracted by the former pontiff. The former pontiff was also the first to publically apologize for the inquisition.

Pope John Paul was a man, but a man like few others. I am certain that he will find a seat in the halls of the dead. May his God guide him safely into the land of the dead, and care for his followers who mourn his passage.

I'm not fond of religion, so I'm not one to take sides with it nor defend its institutions without reason. My impression of that situation is that the Vatican was a tiny square mile in the heart of a nation controlled by a fascist dictator allied with the nazis. If the Pope back then publically went against that then the Vatican would probably have ceased to be. (Dictators don't tolerate dissent by other public figures, especially from the capital of their nation.) Thus I don't think he had a choice in the matter. I would not call silence the same as "sanction". Indeed, the Church did take children of Jewish refugees and hide them from the Nazis. There are complaints from Israel that the Church converted those kids to Catholicism and didn't tell them of their Jewish roots, but that's a different topic and a religious theological argument, not a political one. (And heck, I would not be surprised if Jewish fundementalists in Israel would have done the same thing had the situation been reversed, or any other major religious leadership organization for that matter.) As for the inquisition, that is also a theological issue, not a political one.

You forgot et, and animus is more applicable than spiritus. Not to mention it should be Filio... or is it Filo? Anyway it should be ablative.

A ab de
cum ex e
sine pro prae
Take the ablatae.

Its an Irish dialect of Latin, influenced by Celtic.

I'm not really sure what you're on about with that other stuff, but filio is Latin for son, filo is a misspelling. *random input*

EDIT: I mean son, not sun.

.... You don't need to tell me that, He used Filus, which if it is Latin, which apparently it isn't, is a grammatical error. I know my vocabulary, Filus is second declesion, why wouldn't I know it? It's not like it's one of those odd fourths. That end was a little rhyme to remeber which prepositions take the ablative case, I was pointing out that E should take tha ablative, not the Nominative as he used it. But that dosen't really matter, it wasn't real Latin.

The world has lost a holy man.
May he rest in peace.
Amen.

I don't know, Falasin, but you just said "or is it Filo?" which it isn't, so I was clarifying. I guess I misunderstood.

So...has he been succeeded already, or do they take a while for these things?

Yeah, it is a whole ritual. It is done on election in a conclave of summoned by the College of Cardinals, the ritual is called the Papal Election. What I find a bit ironic, is that not long ago I finished reading Angeles y Demonios (Angels and Demons?). Edit: So I read the book, and yeah the Pope finally end up dying. It is good that he died peacefully