Hartstone demesne.

by Thorgal

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Narsrim2005-04-03 18:25:58
QUOTE(Silvanus @ Apr 3 2005, 01:09 PM)
Gregori, you should know your skills.

The Druid does not have to be in their demesne for the lifting thing up into trees to work, all it does is have to be on.
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Read what he said and quit looking like a moron. You have to be in your demesne to activate treebane which is what tosses you out (back in the statue, duh).
Silvanus2005-04-03 18:27:54
He said if the "Druid isn't there, you don't ge tthrown into the statue over and over." If they turned on treelift, you'd still get thrown into the statue, the wind hits very often.
Narsrim2005-04-03 18:29:11
QUOTE(Thorgal @ Apr 3 2005, 01:55 PM)
You say willowisp is a very high ability that not everyone has huh? Focus spirit is an even higher ability, that almost no one has, since it's the trans skill of a non-guild skillset. I'd say that's a lot harder to get than willowisp, you're just voiding your own points.

Hartstone demesne is on par with the other demesnes in normal combat, due to sap and darkseed, but in village defence, it is FAR superior to any other demesne, as if the other demesnes wouldn't already be totally overdominant in influencing and villages, plenty of topics about that.
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Chasm > Sap

Poison Gas > Darkseed

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Furthermore, poison gas is amazing against groups. In 60 seconds, every is dead pretty much.
Genos2005-04-03 18:30:06
The real question is, why didn't Silvanus Taint. Were you too screwed up to do anything? I'm just curious...
Narsrim2005-04-03 18:30:22
QUOTE(Silvanus @ Apr 3 2005, 02:27 PM)
He said if the "Druid isn't there, you don't ge tthrown into the statue over and over." If they turned on treelift, you'd still get thrown into the statue, the wind hits very often.
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Once you a lifted into trees, you can move one room away and fall out in a room without a statue. Plus, if you have cling... you can get sucked up, cling, and boom... you are safe from wind.
Silvanus2005-04-03 18:32:46
And then we sit up there not accomplishing our objective, obviously you misunderstood what we were trying to do there.
Thorgal2005-04-03 19:13:12
QUOTE(Narsrim @ Apr 3 2005, 08:29 PM)
Chasm > Sap

Poison Gas > Darkseed

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Furthermore, poison gas is amazing against groups. In 60 seconds, every is dead pretty much.
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In long lasting duels, it's not really feasible to bring food for it, but during influences and skirmishes, bringing food will negate a geomancer's best effect...there's nothing you can do to prevent getting screwed up by statues like that, if you move backwards, you're back where you started at, having accomplished nothing, if you move forwards, you get raped by guards and defenders.

Shiri shows a lot more insight than you, should take an example on him.
Shiri2005-04-03 19:18:22
Influences you'll still need to bring a lot of food. Skirmishes, maybe, but influences last for way too long to just wing it.

EDIT: Love the quick turnaround from when I was disagreeing with you on the other threads, Thorgal, by the way. tongue.gif
Thorgal2005-04-03 19:29:41
Pff, I got spoiled by it, seeing Narsrim post makes me realize again how lucky we are with people like you, Shiri! waggle.gif
Unknown2005-04-03 19:43:05
Not that this matters, but did the Hartstone even bother attacking in fight's future? I didn't see any thorns come in (Though I did just scan it).

I don't want to sling mud about demesnes so I don't think I'll mention anything on that, but on it's own it seems to make up for the lack of Phantoms/Reality. I'm not very demesne savvy though so don't flip out over my comment. tongue.gif ninja.gif
Narsrim2005-04-03 19:43:38
QUOTE(Silvanus @ Apr 3 2005, 02:32 PM)
And then we sit up there not accomplishing our objective, obviously you misunderstood what we were trying to do there.
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My point is that you can stop getting flung into a statue. If you are trying to argue that demesnes stop objectives, then yes... I'll go with that.
Gwylifar2005-04-03 22:38:41
Actually I think Rock works outside mountains, but you have to be in mountains to bond it.

Serenguard don't have rooting, but we can Stand Firm. Unfortunately this stops the moment you move or do anything much.
Shiri2005-04-03 23:03:01
QUOTE(Gwylifar @ Apr 3 2005, 11:38 PM)
Actually I think Rock works outside mountains, but you have to be in mountains to bond it.

Serenguard don't have rooting, but we can Stand Firm.  Unfortunately this stops the moment you move or do anything much.
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Yeah, I wasn't sure about that, but I think it was Tuek (maybe not) said it doesn't work outside mountains, and after all, none of the other similar spirits (night, sun, moon, river, tree) do, so it's a logical assumption to make. Testing will begin when I can be bothered to do it properly, likely tomorrow.
Athana2005-04-03 23:13:44
QUOTE(Genos @ Apr 3 2005, 06:30 PM)
The real question is, why didn't Silvanus Taint. Were you too screwed up to do anything? I'm just curious...
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dumb statue.
Terenas2005-04-03 23:16:55
QUOTE(Athana @ Apr 3 2005, 11:13 PM)
dumb statue.
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So let me get this straight, you guys knowingly walked into a demesned room with guards and a statue without bothering to taint outside or inside of the room and then when you got attacked back, you're crying overpoweredness?

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Silvanus2005-04-03 23:18:41
Well... we thought it was Moralis' demesne, and he wans't on prime at the time.
Athana2005-04-03 23:19:04
QUOTE(terenas @ Apr 3 2005, 11:16 PM)
So let me get this straight, you guys knowingly walked into a demesned room with guards and a statue without bothering to taint outside or inside of the room and then when you got attacked back, you're crying overpoweredness?

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not walked FLOWED! tongue.gif
Silvanus2005-04-03 23:25:01
We didn't flow Athana, that was a whole different time, where the demesne picked us and dropped us in it - which sucked, but there were also 25 guards.
Terenas2005-04-03 23:33:00
QUOTE(Silvanus @ Apr 3 2005, 11:25 PM)
We didn't flow Athana, that was a whole different time, where the demesne picked us and dropped us in it - which sucked, but there were also 25 guards.
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So what was the Geomancer's reasons not to forcetaint? biggrin.gif
Silvanus2005-04-03 23:35:08
I was the only Geomancer, I was the only one who was hit by the statue at first. 8 seconds later I was forced into the trees, not too after that I was forced down. We can't forcetaint from the trees, like Hartstone.