Jalain2005-04-08 16:49:59
I'm voting for Shiri until he stops trying to Jinx me with my name at the bottom of that list.
+Shiri
+Shiri
Annelia2005-04-08 16:56:02
Taking Jack's suggestion
Voting for Daganev
Voting for Daganev
Summer2005-04-08 16:56:54
QUOTE(Shiri @ Apr 9 2005, 12:40 AM)
But isn't the idea that the Soulless will probably keep to hiding and not voice their opinions, as they have no need to communicate out here for most of the time? That's why we've been voting for quieter people, isn't it? Because they're suspicious. Presumably the Soulless won't be offering opinions much, because there's a greater risk of being discovered. So it'd be more like the Soulless are sheep, there.
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We've been voting for quieter people? I'm not quiet by any stretch of the imagination? And Silvanus wasn't what I'd call quiet either.
Or okay, possibly the Soulless can be sheep too. They just follow when someone else suggests a non-soulless name to vote for.
Daganev2005-04-08 19:04:29
Instead of being random, I'm going to Vote for Shiri
I REALLY REALLY REALLY hope the other guardian is active and paying attention. The Seer has contacted me and I am guarding them. Shiri is a soulless...
And dernit, If the seer hadn't contacted me I would have guarded Jack... You can ask soll about that one... But better safe than sorry.
So thats why I've been acting wierd. last game, when I talked alot, I got voted off right away (almost) and since as an elder I was willing to sacrifice myself, as a Guardian I'm not.
I REALLY REALLY REALLY hope the other guardian is active and paying attention. The Seer has contacted me and I am guarding them. Shiri is a soulless...
And dernit, If the seer hadn't contacted me I would have guarded Jack... You can ask soll about that one... But better safe than sorry.
So thats why I've been acting wierd. last game, when I talked alot, I got voted off right away (almost) and since as an elder I was willing to sacrifice myself, as a Guardian I'm not.
Shiri2005-04-08 19:15:45
Blah. So I don't get killed due to framing, -Anonymous, +Daganev. Daganev may not be a Soulless, but there's a chance he is, whereas I know I'm not.
Summer2005-04-08 19:34:34
I wonder... who should I believe? Someone screaming from the dead or a someone claiming to be guardian?
Move vote from Daganev back to Tsuki. If it's between Dag and Shiri, my vote goes to Shiri.
Move vote from Daganev back to Tsuki. If it's between Dag and Shiri, my vote goes to Shiri.
Jack2005-04-08 19:37:56
Why would a Guardian admit to it?
If he is a Guardian - unless the other Guardian remains anonymous and guards him, which would be risky on his/her part - he'll be the next to be killed by the Soulless, anyway. But if he's a Soulless, he's got - in essence - the perfect shield. For all we know, the two Seers are already dead, and nobody can dispute his claim, consequently.
Oh, yeah.. I'm dead.
If he is a Guardian - unless the other Guardian remains anonymous and guards him, which would be risky on his/her part - he'll be the next to be killed by the Soulless, anyway. But if he's a Soulless, he's got - in essence - the perfect shield. For all we know, the two Seers are already dead, and nobody can dispute his claim, consequently.
Oh, yeah.. I'm dead.
Unknown2005-04-08 19:38:11
Oh damn, how to be smart in the situation like this...
Who's lying, who's telling the truth?
Alright, decision must be made.
Voting for Daganev.
You're so blatantly stating that we go ask Soll, when you know we can't. I'm going to assume you're a Soulless, I doubt Guardian would be so open about being one.
Who's lying, who's telling the truth?
Alright, decision must be made.
Voting for Daganev.
You're so blatantly stating that we go ask Soll, when you know we can't. I'm going to assume you're a Soulless, I doubt Guardian would be so open about being one.
Summer2005-04-08 19:49:47
Should have gotten the Seer to speak up for you, that you aren't soulless. And then you guard the Seer while staying anonymous. Odds of us believing someone when they're claiming to be guardian is probably the same as if they were claiming seer.
Who are the other names already checked? (Hopefully not all dead already) Or on second thought, don't post the non-soulless ones unless they're in danger of being killed.
Eldanien was even more open about being one. So not really a valid argument.
Who are the other names already checked? (Hopefully not all dead already) Or on second thought, don't post the non-soulless ones unless they're in danger of being killed.
Eldanien was even more open about being one. So not really a valid argument.
Summer2005-04-08 20:00:46
We could always wait at least one night to see if he dies. Why do their job for them if Daganev is a real guardian?
So far:
3 Shiri (Nyla, Jalain, Daganev)
3 Daganev (Annelia, Shiri, Kashim)
1 Anonymous (Tsuki)
1 Tsuki (Summer)
So far:
3 Shiri (Nyla, Jalain, Daganev)
3 Daganev (Annelia, Shiri, Kashim)
1 Anonymous (Tsuki)
1 Tsuki (Summer)
Soll2005-04-08 20:25:40
I'm tacking on another 24 hours to this day, so more votes can be collected, and better reasoning can be given. Also to allow you to alter votes, and for me to make a death sequence since the narrator got fired. >_<
Shiri2005-04-08 20:29:51
QUOTE(Summer @ Apr 8 2005, 09:00 PM)
We could always wait at least one night to see if he dies. Why do their job for them if Daganev is a real guardian?
So far:
3 Shiri (Nyla, Jalain, Daganev)
3 Daganev (Annelia, Shiri, Kashim)
1 Anonymous (Tsuki)
1 Tsuki (Summer)
So far:
3 Shiri (Nyla, Jalain, Daganev)
3 Daganev (Annelia, Shiri, Kashim)
1 Anonymous (Tsuki)
1 Tsuki (Summer)
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See if who dies?
Jack2005-04-08 20:31:07
QUOTE(Soll @ Apr 8 2005, 08:25 PM)
I'm tacking on another 24 hours to this day, so more votes can be collected, and better reasoning can be given. Also to allow you to alter votes, and for me to make a death sequence since the narrator got fired. >_<
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Oh, yeah, I've being meaning to ask you about that..
Lemme write the next death sequence?
Pwetty pwease?
Daganev2005-04-08 20:59:07
QUOTE(Kashim @ Apr 8 2005, 11:38 AM)
Oh damn, how to be smart in the situation like this...
Who's lying, who's telling the truth?
Alright, decision must be made.
Voting for Daganev.
You're so blatantly stating that we go ask Soll, when you know we can't. I'm going to assume you're a Soulless, I doubt Guardian would be so open about being one.
Who's lying, who's telling the truth?
Alright, decision must be made.
Voting for Daganev.
You're so blatantly stating that we go ask Soll, when you know we can't. I'm going to assume you're a Soulless, I doubt Guardian would be so open about being one.
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Jack is dead, he can ask soll if I guarded him and then changed my mind. The annoyance that I guarded someone, changed my mind, and then they got killed was too funny for me.
Summer was saying that you can kill shiri, and if I don't die during the night then you can kill me next. makes perfect sense to me.
And I am admitting that I am a guardian because seers are more important than guardians. And two guardians can protect eachother, while seers can not. imagine having two people both saying they are seers, and not being able to prove it. Guardians on the other hand, don't really have that problem, because the other one can guard me and stay hidden.
Daganev2005-04-08 21:01:34
QUOTE(Summer @ Apr 8 2005, 11:34 AM)
I wonder... who should I believe? Someone screaming from the dead or a someone claiming to be guardian?
Move vote from Daganev back to Tsuki. If it's between Dag and Shiri, my vote goes to Shiri.
Move vote from Daganev back to Tsuki. If it's between Dag and Shiri, my vote goes to Shiri.
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I am confused,.. why was the day extended.
THere was a tie between me and shiri which means the vote got moved to not be a tie... *peer*
This is what happens when non moderators try to moderate things,.. it confuses people.
Daganev2005-04-08 21:05:25
Well I have to leave for the next few days, I'm messaged soll my strategy on voting so it should be easy for him to know who I vote for.
I hope thats allowed, if not, would the seer do thier thing and make sure I don't get killed off while I'm guarding you and I'm away? Thanks.
I hope thats allowed, if not, would the seer do thier thing and make sure I don't get killed off while I'm guarding you and I'm away? Thanks.
Soll2005-04-08 21:14:27
I extended the day because a large number of people haven't voted atall yet.
Daganev2005-04-08 21:15:31
Ahh, Oh and Seer, check out all the people who voted for me the next few days....
Summer2005-04-08 23:11:30
QUOTE(daganev @ Apr 9 2005, 04:59 AM)
Summer was saying that you can kill shiri, and if I don't die during the night then you can kill me next. makes perfect sense to me.
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Not that the plan is foolproof, since if we do fix it on that, the Soulless could just let you live the next night, so most everyone suspects you're a Soulless, and kills you off next in addition to invalidating what you said.
Tsuki2005-04-09 00:21:11
QUOTE(Tsuki @ Apr 8 2005, 04:36 AM)
Less certain, not certain enough, wondering vaguely ... those are most of my "thoughts" (I flatter myself using the term at the moment).
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QUOTE(Summer @ Apr 8 2005, 04:39 AM)
You're looking suspicious too. Going with whatever will make you not seem soulless at the moment, and then voting for Anonymous because you don't know who he is. Wonder if you know who all the rest of us are. *ponder*
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The "less certain" was the reason I didn't vote for you again, Summer. So most of the nebulous ideas I did have regarding people are even more vague now.
If I'd've known the day would be extended, I wouldn't've tried thinking on how to vote while my brain was shutting down. I only just woke up an hour ago, so if I hadn't've voted then I would have missed voting.
I know Anonymous is Tuek, but the forum name is Anonymous so that's what I used. He hasn't said much, and Etanru saying nothing was what most people jumped on last time, so that seemed a workable extension of the same idea.
Whatever specific thought had me adding the qualifier about Daganev died when I went to sleep, but unless the Soulless killed one of their own in Jack, I wish I knew the reasonings for Jack's fingering of Daganev. And Daganev claims to be a guardian, but prior to admitting that had mentioned the strategy of revealing guardian status seemed to work the last round without then admitting himself as guardian but waiting until later to do so?
And yes, I realized awhile back (page 5) that I could very easily be setting myself up for suspicion. S'ok if you vote against me, though. Even if we've only killed regular Elders during the day and the night deaths have been regular Elders, we'd still have 9 Elders to 5 Soulless and can still stand to lose a few more before we're in trouble.