When you look at it that way, it seems like it!
Seriously, if Serenwilders were the only ones actually involved...
It really reminds me of Cosmic Hope, oh yes.
Weren't Magnagorans saying "Don't do it"? Roles have just reversed now.
Reminder: I'm not taking divines into account here.

However, you have to take divinities into account, because if it were not for Raezon, this would not have happened.

How do you know what would have happened if it were not for Raezon?
Viravain would have been eaten by all these Glomdoring creatures maybe? (I doubt it's possible, but from the log it seems like she had trouble with them there!)

She had trouble due to using the seal in an attempt to do the entire thing all at once (and thus, bringing all the creatures to her at once). And if Raezon had not talked Her into using the seal, She would have kept on as she was, one bit at a time (which was perfectly fine with us mortals.)

Shiri, use your moderator powers and close this debacle of an argument. It's a flame post! Or at least move it to Survival where NOBODY will read it.

Heh, about the survival part. But no, it's not a personal attack. It's a completely stupid argument, but not a personal attack.

Damn you and your upstanding morals!

I don't see a reason why he should do that.

Personal Attack: Ban

Shiri, theres a river waiting for you in Egypt...

No reason at all to close this thread. It is kind of funny. A Magnagoran Guild Patron screwed the pooch and now the Magnagoran players are putting OOC spin on it to try and influence IC events. Buisness as usuall.

Hah, I actually worked through the bad pun and got that, haven't heard it before. Anyway...you're still wrong. Actually, the point here is more that you want Serenwilde to change their opinions because you personally don't like the stance they have now because it disagrees with your view of things, so you try and put spin on what we do to make it look worse.

This time, you really went in over your head though. You just CAN'T twist this one.

Actually... you don't know my opinion on this matter, so I'll leave you to that.

I am however trying to show all you people that insist that Glomdoring proves that Nature and Taint can't exist together how if you look at this with the actual facts you can see how trying to remove the Taint is the anti-nature approach to this. IF it wasn't, it would not have resulted in the release of Kethuru.

Try to bring about the destruction of one forest and you bring about destruction for everybody. Its like saying "I'm not destroying the rainforest, I'm just creating grazing fields and plains because thats the way its 'suppose' to be."

Hey, did Magnagorans know or support Raezon's doings, or was it totally his own initiative which he didn't share with mortals?

Because rainforests frequently spring up overnight via monstrous lightning storms from other planes.

No, the detainting of Glomdoring didn't result in the release of Kethuru. We already went through this part. The detainting of GLomdoring produced lots of shiny fluffy stuff, USING THE SEAL released Kethuru. Using the seal FOR ANYTHING ELSE would have done the same thing.

Total bunk. Kethuru's release was brought about by the taking a short cut, the idea of which was fostered upon Viravain by Raezon. Estarra clearly stated that if the original slow cautious approach was taken there would have been no such danger.

It doesn't change the fact that -forcing- Glomdoring to change is not a natural way to do things. It's fine as it is now. So it more seems like your idea of nature is just green trees, butterflies, occasional deer or wolf.

EDIT: Anti-nature approach, yep.

It was Raezon - no Magnagoran knew of it.

And I don't think anyone seriously believes we can blame the Seren. I really think they've done absolutely nothing in this event, it's all been Viravain. But, ICly, of course we're going to blame you. All of the Basin should. Celest should have a bit of pity, but should be like, "But you KNEW..."

Do it in game then. But DON'T do what Daganev's been doing and try to pin it on us OOC.