Okay, let's just say Kethuru turns the Tainted into marionettes. What then? I hope Kethuru has a good supper devouring them, or at least devouring their souls.

Viravain was NOT tainted before she became his Marrionette. Why would Kethuru use a tainted person instead of a regular person?
I assume Kethuru will use whatever he can get his hands on no matter what aspects they have about them.

Neither was Landantine tainted BEFORE he got turned into a puppet.

One could even argue that Kethuru does not use Tainted beings as puppet and so being Tainted is a method of saving yourself from being tunred into one.

Who ever mentioned the after Kethuru? My post was a reply to:



So basically what we are saying is that the Kethuru might have some control over the beings that has been corrupted by the Taint, or His presence. Oh, and how will being Tainted save you from Kethuru? I think that Tainted are either fecal matter for Kethuru, or half digested food.

Kethuru will destroy a Tainted person just as fast as a non Tainted person. But Kethuru has never been seen to use a TAinted being a Puppet. Its possible that being Tainted makes Kethuru view you as dung, and who wants to use dung as a puppet?

It protects you from turning into a puppet, saves your individuality.

Why not use 100% something disposable and dispensable as puppet? May god save you if you try to use something as valuable as your heart as puppet. Look, my initial post was that even the Tainted would be eaten by Kethuru because Kethuru doesn't care for them.

Geb suggested that maybe Kethuru would be able to manipulate a Tainted person easier than a untainted, which could be a possibility. Why? Because they were once already under Kethuru's grasp

Wait, wait, wait. Let me get this straight.

Magnagora, Celest, and Serenwilde all fight against Kethuru (Who's possessing Viravain - this may not be -entirely- accurate, but it's close enough for these purposes). Everyone is buddy-buddy for a few moments, all is fine and dandy.

In this process, the villages revolted (Because Viravain did nasty things and scared everyone).

Celest and Serenwilde agreed not to influence, to allow time to mourn. Note: Magnagora did -NOT- agree to any such things, though, Estarra did suggest that people -should- have a mourning period (Not -will- have one, -should- have one).

Magnagora, under no obligation not to influence, and not giving a damn about some god who died, being that it wasn't one of -their- gods, proceeded to influence. During this time, some fights broke out (I won't say who started it, I don't care, it doesn't really matter).

And this makes Magnagora a brutal, mindless thug? Because they saw an opportunity and jumped on it? And what agreement was broken in the process?


So, logically, if Celest or Serenwilde ever attack a village, or a Demon Lord, or the Lords of the Rock, or any such thing that would potentially be inconvenient for Magnagora, and involves violence, they'd be going down that path too, right? I mean, if Magnagora can't take the opportunity to influence neutral villages when they haven't agreed not to because it's an attack on Celest and Serenwilde (Or some blather), then it's -clearly- a mindless attack on their part if they go after what is unarguably "Magnagora turf."

But wait...hasn't it been argued (endlessly) that raiding villages isn't a hostile act against a group (Alright, I'm paraphrasing a tad there, but you all get the idea)? So, if that's not a hostile action, how can you even attempt to claim that influencing neutral villages is?

*Sniff* What's that? Hypocracy?


And on a side note...stop your whining. It's not like we weren't going to work on influencing those villages anyways. And other people have admitted they were working on setting things up to influence villages, even as Magnagora was.

And in regards to Stangmar, the same can be said for Munsia. Why don't you kick her out of the Commune for harassing the "enemy"? Wait...because maybe nobody cares if she's pissing off Magnagorans? Just like nobody really cares if Stangmar is pissing of Serenwilde/Celest? NO! Not the logic! Anything but that!

Wasn't Magnagora part of the agreement? By Daganev's shout last day, I had the impression they were.

Daganev was wrong. Or lieing.. I havn't decided yet

It was Daganev's attempt at spin.

Yep. Great tactic... Shouting a diversion.

From what I've been reading, I think the following happened:

Stangmar started to demesne Stewartsville, an agreement was talked on of which parties might've had agreed, someone from Celest was getting ready to Influence Delport, Magnagora got paranoic and started influencing Delport. Magnagora sees what Stangmar is doing and takes the advantage and goes for Stewartsville and all other villages.

I am wrong, of course. Just stating what I think might've had happened

I really don't think that much observation or thinking occured.

Stagmar decided to kill someone.
Some Celestians decided to try to get a village.
Magnagora decided to take thier villages back.
Narsrim decided to not let Stagmar get away with killing someone.
Spin via shouting begins.
All hell breaks loose.

I have no idea where shamarah fits in.

But yeah.. my shout was because some magnagorans were in the room when Niara was talking about treaties, one of them was Arilyon, and being that I was sleepy, I confused Arilyon with Daevos.

Now I have to figure out if Daganev was lying or wrong. Should be fun.

Wrong. If you are a dumb bear, I doubt you should be able to come up with anything smart/witty.

Daganev is Wise, but unintelegent. He has good observatinal powers, I doubt he would get confused as to if he was looking at his Emporer or not. Hence the dilema.

If I was playing D&D Daganev's stats would be like this. Str: 18(00) Dex: 8 Int: 5 Wis: 16 Con: 15 Cha: 17

Stangmar was punished for his actions. Arilyon guilddisfavoured him for being an idiot, though I'm not sure of he was CDFed as well. Be thankful we at least punish people who do bad things. No one else can say the same.

Well, we did kick out Munsia like 4 times.

Anyway, Narsrim wasn't being an idiot, per se, just vengeful.

Brutish thuggish kind of vengefull

...yeah well.

2005/04/07 17:47:16 - Amaru declared that Stangmar is no longer an enemy.
Reason: Fine paid. Next donation will be his fine.


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