Whine whine whine, you guys just are jealous someones actually found out the dwarves true potential. I mean sure eventually when Gaudi comes out Dracnari will get all these skills and it'll be like, omfg they can tank all these stuff, they are overpowered, nerf nerf nerf Maybe you city folk should try and get some Clangorum for yourself

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And this is dead wrong.

High numbers make it more feasible only because more damage can be dealt in a shorter period of time.

Yuddhi was 100x a Demon Lord and Sentaari could tank him if they were smart about it. Are you really so shocked that Tuek and I can kill a Demon Lord when two of us put our heads together?

Groups have the advantage of strong/fast but let's be honest, most groups have people who are not ~80+, have various blessings, divine favours, etc. When one person dies, deathsight lets -everyone- know that something is going down and thus the failures in the past. Two people who can heal effectively and have the health to take the damage have th advantage in that they can ensure neither dies (even more so for Tuek because I can switch between attacking and healing). In the end, damage is damage. If it comes in 10 minutes or 30 minutes (it literally took me 30 minutes to solo Gorgulu in the past), it is still as lethal.

You...should...not...be...able...to...solo...a...demon...lord.

It's not like they're just mobs to bash like achaean honours mobs, they cost our city loads of power, resources, access to entire skillsets, and effort... one man, or even two men, or even three men, should NOT be able to kill a demon lord...entire armies should have to die multiple times to kill a single one of them.

EDIT: Watch your language. ~Shiri~

Then it's destined to always fail. If even a single person dies, thus revealing what is happening, you cannot win, and might as well start running. Stealth is the key, getting a few of the strongest people you can in there, who won't die. Newbie-rushing isn't a valid tactic (and shouldn't be, moreso then a few high leveled people).

Okay then, take 5 or 6 of the strongest people of the realms, and use keen strategies to slowly wear down and eventually take out a demon lord...

But not 1 single person taking that demon lord on his own.

It was more then one.

Alright, two, but the point still stands.

So I repeat:

Take 5 or 6 of the strongest people of the realms, and use keen strategies to slowly wear down and eventually take out a demon lord...

But not 1 single person taking that demon lord on his own.

Awww your all just jealous, cept for Tuek, cause he's cool, of Narsrims amazing feats! Maybe Narsrims just blessed by Clangorum somehow, who knows, maybe s/he'll come back next, you never know... Long live the Clangoru! We're Number One! At Killing Demon Lords/Ladies and the various other supposed tough things

He likes to use the word solo when in reality he means, "Tuek and I."

In fact, Nasrim and Tuek were they same person, until some Magnagoran hit him with an axe, split it in two and both the halfs had to grow up another half-body.
There you have, that's why he sometimes says solo when it's duo.
Anyway, two persons against a demon lord should have a bad bad bad time and very small chances of doing it. Even if it's two buffed up dwarves with lots of artifacts.

That sounds about just exactly how it went. It is very tedious, and things rest on a knife-edge.

It shouldn't be very hard with only a small chance of success, it should be plain impossible. Maybe an artifacted titan would be able to if he was very careful and very powerful, but not a couple of normal mortals.

Here's a random suggestion...Nerf their con to 13, then when they reach one of several tiers of drunkenness (tipsy, world spinning, etc.), the con gets a bonus. So they can get it to 15, or maybe higher, but they have to get really smashed. Seems Dwarfy to me...

I think you have a misplaced concept of how powerful a Demon Lord is. They are half formed not gods. They are very strong, yes. Gorgulu, prior to being upgraded twice and who knows how many hidden times because he just keeps getting harder, was very very very powerful. He cleared a room of 20 some people easy. However, there will always be the opportunity for someone to arise who is strong, who has superb strategy, and who succeeds. I think that's part of the fun. It takes more to kill a Demon Lord than raw numbers. Tuek and I proved that killing Ashtorath and Nifilhema. After dying to them over five times, we devised a strategy that was *genius*.

Magnagora has -always- had the option of staffing citizens on Nil to watch for attackers. I don't have a gem of cloaking. I was literally as obvious as one could be. No one checked... shame on you. At some point, you have to admit the failures of the Nihilists and Magnagora as a whole to protect the Demon Lords. They are obviously not above certain mortals and their methods. Instead of trying to remedy the situation by establishing regular patrols, etc... you just want them to be continually upgraded. Take some of the energy you put into forums and use it productively in game. You might be shocked at the results.

Let's not forget that Devris was, SITTING ON THE PLANE THE ENTIRE TIME WE WERE THERE... I mean, if he checked who even once, he would have noticed that Narsrim was right there exposed on the list.

Edit: And believe me, we were there for awhile.

The same thing happened the last time we killed Gorgulu too. Heh. Shame shame shame on Magnagora

My mind is boggled and wonders where you get the nerves to even try and justify this.

A ) Demon lords do not cry for help, there is no way anyone could have known you two were killing them. Point remains that it just isn't the intention of the divine for a few mortals, or even just two mortal to take out a single demon lord, let alone two at once. They stated that at the beginning of the game.

B ) There is no way we can return the favour,

-since Hart is on prime, within serenwilde and within forested area.
-since the avatars are within forested area, AND directly guarded by unlimited amount of denizen guards.

Stop trying to justify the unjustifiable.

So what you are telling me is that Magnagora has never slain the Moon Avatars. Oh wait, wrong.

I also remember someone whinning that it wasn't fair that Raziela gave better afflictions than Gorgulu. It did her a lot of good, apparently since someone killed her too. She was tagged "unkillable." Wrong again.