Why not make all of the cherubs defend Raziela, all the diavas defend Shakiniel, all the angels defend Japhiel, all the Archangels defend Methrenton, and all four defend Elohora.

Or something along those lines? It'd force them to kill the mobs before hand, and give Celest a pre-warning as to what's going on.

They'd still tank 'em..plus, like Daganev said, they do it when no one's on, they'd still be able to kill all the demons/angels before the supernals/demon lords, without anyone stopping them. Having the supernals and demon lords call for help won't solve the problem for the same reason.

Actually... you were wrong about no one being present. The past attempts, sure, no one was present, but this most recent attempt, it was high time with many people around. (Including a certain Devris who was on the plane the entire time we killed the Demon Lords.)

Oh, and there's a reason why Nifilhema and Ashtorath died so close together, they come and team when you attack one, and they DO have lower HP when compared to Gorgulu.

And Ixion and Daevos should be able to do it easy. The reason they fail is because their strategy is inherently wrong. It's about stealth, not a massive newbie rush where half the people die instantly, thus telling the world that something is up and it's time to defend.

If the divine really want fighting Demon Lords to be a team effort, there is a simple solution.

Downgrade the room attacks. There you have it, don't make it impossible to bring an army, that gets slaughtered instantly, if they really want it to take an army.

Upgrade the damage of the single target attacks slightly, and increase the speed vastly. If you have two people, then they'll die quickly since they'll be hit with single targetting very powerful attacks in rapid succession. If you have a large group, the target will constantly be shifting, so you'll take at most one blow that you can recover from.


Edit: Nooooo my signature! The Lusternia forums are using to much of Imageshacks bandwidth. Oh the horror!

You just don't listen to anyone, do you? Did you just conviently miss the post where Lisaera said you shouldn't be able to do it?

If you were meant to be able to do it, you would be able to buy a Vernalising Artifact to turn you into a Vernal. You're not a Vernal. You're not a god. Get it through your skull, PLEASE!

I said, that Daevos and Ixion could do it easy, they just failed in their past attempts because they went about it entirely wrong. I did not say that was how it should be, that it should only take two people. I even offered the solution as to how to make it as the Divine intended.

Idiot.

Why do imps and cherubs cry out yet the Supernals and Demon Lords don't? The fae loyal to moon spirit probably do as well. I think I'd prefer the reverse, where the important denizens announce being attacked, but the little ones don't.

I know its a slight digression, but I think we'd get a lot more flux going on in the imp/fae/cherub quest if it wasn't basically impossible to steal them.

*nod me*

The Fae do indeed cry out. And usually kill whichever newbie decided to randomly kick them a scant second or two later.

I like Tuek's idea, Elryn's not.

Do you not get it or are you just not listening.

I was on PRIME..until Jadryga said that their was a rumour that Gorgulu was dead. This can be confirmed by ANYONE in Magnagora when I said, "I'm bashing spectres right now, should I head up to earth to get essence?"

Why on God's Green earth would I be sitting on Nil? I'm not a Nihilist, and we had no reason to suspect an attack to after it was over. So sotp spouting that I was up there. Don't know if you were drunk or just...hmm, no insults...but I was nowhere NEAR that plane when you attacked. Contrary to your obvious belief the Ur'Guard don't sit on Nil for the fun of it all, if you see us up there it is usually because someone is dead and we are bashing essence.

If you are talking about when WE ALL came up there, it was about 4 of us so don't act like I was sitting there by myself and never saw you when we did arrive. I showed up with Kayde and by that time they were all down. Like I said before I have to run through Ethereal, and Munsia's demense to get there, so I only am there when following someone with a cubix, in this case Kayde. We arrived to deliver essence, and hence Gorgulu was already dead.

We did see you at one point also (me and Kayde) and announced it on CT. No backup showed up, so there wasn't much we could do. I think there were a total of 7 Mags on then, and 3 were novices.

(Note: I never sit on Nil for guard duty either since Marcalo and I keep trading the 34th ranking spot on XP, and I have to hunt 24/7 to keep it. Kinda a fun competition, but I wouldn't sit on Nil unless I have to. I'm also not a retard, and spam the bejesus out of QW when I do guard earth on rare occasions. The Demon Lords were dead already when Ol' Devris finally got there, you were busy running off the plane. You scouted not long later again, which was when we called for help but no one was around and wasn't much we could do.)

We killed Gorgulu, then came back for the other two 30 minutes later. You were quite clearly there when we both entered the plane, and I was checking who when we first started, and when we were almost finished (though not in between). You were there for the ending and the beginning, that is for certain, Narsrim and I commented on it, saying that you probably wouldn't notice.

Should != it would be right for them to be able to.
Should == With their current abilities it should be possible for them to do it if they used the right method.

What Tuek is saying, they need to be fixed, and other people could do it if they did it a particular way. Not that it would be right for those people to be able to do it.

Ok, thanks for confirming it, you are truly insane.

I think now they should just nerf the Loboshigaru as I obviously now have the power of dividing my body in two. Not only was I bashing the spectres on prime, but I was now also on Nil. Go me!

You obviously have very little faith in my ability to check QW, and I wish we could contact immortals to confirm where I was at that time. I certainly was nowhere near Nil before they were dead, and the time I did return after they were all dead...both myself and Kayde did call you out on CT. You ran off.

You got a few without being noticed since no one was on Nil, but we saw you the second time. There was no one around though. If you hadn't shown off the corpse of Raziela, we probably wouldn't have noticed for hours, but Jadryga called it out on CT after that for someone to go check Nil. Gee, why would someone have to go check Nil if people were already there...hmm...that's a mystery.

Anyone who is anyone spams the bejesus out of QW on the planes, just to see who is around while they are bashing. And you are still missing the point that I have to run through Ethereal to get to Nil, and since Munsia was on and that would result me running through her demense, I didn't come to Nil until led there after it was noticed they were all dead. Do you not comprehend the concept that I have no cubix and won't be suicidal enough to run through the demense of someone who already has status on me?

Must have been that weird planes intersecting bug. Often times you see people who are on Water and Earth from the Ethereal plane and vice versa, and sometimes you see people on Cosmic from Astral, etc. They show up on BWHO/QWHO but not the actual WHO. It's a long standing bug. So I guess we did SEE you on BW, but you were actually on another plane, like Astral.

That bug was fixed quite some time ago.

So they say, I still see it from time to time, and if it was fixed, how on Nil did Narsrim and I both see Devris and discuss it, wondering if we should go forward as planned?

The bug still happens from time to time, just not as often as it used to. I usually only get it if I'm standing at the megalith.

Yea, I still notice it alot when I'm standing at a Gate/Nexus or if the other person was standing at a Gate/Nexus. That is probably what it is.

Sorry if it came across harsh. Wasn't trying to be mean about it, I truly do believe you and Narsrim did see my name on QW. Weirdness.

I don't have trans planar yet so I avoid those nasty upper planes *g*

Specially since I lost 4 levels on astral thanks to that lovely insane goddess!

It was a nice plan though, like I said if we hadn't heard about Raziela we probably wouldn't have noticed the demon lords for hours.

2005/04/14 04:00 - Someone stole -1000 power by killing Raziela.