Alright, this is actually a serious topic. I'd like to see thoughts and ideas here, and nothing else.

So, the topic today.

What do you consider to be the direction of each city/commnue (Celest, Magnagora, Serenwilde, Glomdoring), what do you think the direction -should- be, or what do you wish it had more of in that respect?

I think Celest and Magnagora are headed in a good direction. Haven't really seen where the other 2 are going. Only so much I can learn in ...(counts)...2 days



*30 seconds later* Towards peace I mean. At least thats what I hope.


*3 minutes later* It does need more Furrikins. Every city needs more Furrikins.

Celest - Needs to be more aggressive against the Taint, with this new cease-fire treaty between Celest and Magnagora, it runs the risk of becoming dangerously peaceful and sedentary. I really hope that doesn't happen. I'm not saying that the treaty is a bad thing, but it could very easily become a bad thing; to start, five years is a bit long, and that can turn into ten years into fifteen years into indefinite. I think that, perhaps in a few IC years, Terentia or Hajamin should make a Celest post saying something like "You have had long enough to recouperate from Kethuru's attack; it is time to take up arms against the Taint once more".

Magnagora - Similar to Celest in that the two cities may become more peaceful than intended to each other; however, it also runs the risk of having Serenwilde become its primary enemy rather than Celest.

Serenwilde - Needs to loosen up on Magnagora and end the Celest-Serenwilde friendship. This would kill two birds in one stone, by helping to redirect Magnagora's focus from Serenwilde to Celest and would also help make Serenwilde more anti-city. Perhaps Celest and Serenwilde should be driven against each other somehow.

Glomdoring - Can't really judge, as it's not out yet, but it needs to be very anti-Serenwilde and anti-city less so, IMO.

I'd love for Serenwilde to lighten up on Magnagora, but it's going to take Celest really screwing us over to do that, unless Magnagora completely backs off (especially with Crow and Glomdoring).

Celest needs to start bringing fae to Raziela, raiding our villages, doing whatever they can to bring us to the Light.

Serenwilde needs to get a lot more paranoid. We let Celest get away with a lot (seems that way, at least), and we need to start cracking down on it.

Glomdoring is going to be anti-magnagora and pro-serenwilde. The question is how those two groups are going to act towards it.

Pro-Serenwilde? Glomdoring?

Um. No.

Glomdoring: "Serenwilde, let's be friends!"
Serenwilde: "Not a chance." *bitchslap glomdoring*
Glomdoring: "Noo!!! We just want to be happy and snuggly!"
Serenwilde: "..."

Magnagora: "Um, wtf?" *eye Glomdoring*

If viravain is any indication of glomdoring politics... sylphas has it on the nose.

Heh. No, the Seren hates Glom, Viravain thinks they're friends. Vira hates Mag, but Mag's trying HARD to get in their bed.

Yeah.

Comments on all of them please! Otherwise this will go into a Glom Vs. Seren chat.

Edit: Ninja'ed thrice. I'm at work. *shrug*

I don't think the cease-fire is going to be too much of a problem. Someone on either Celest or Magnagora is bound to do something stupid eventually, creating conflicts which can eventually turn into another war. However, as you mentioned, indefinite peace is not a good thing. Kind of goes against the whole purpose of Celest.

To put it into a nutshell, I pretty much agree with Shamarah. Serenwilde needs to either cut back on Magnagora or also put the same pressure onto Celest. They hate cities, right? Also, the cease-fire will probably terminate naturally, so I'm not too worried about that.

I think the Commune is moving towards a police-state type stiuation where the members are controlled more and more. I find this to be really interesting, especially since we, at one point, were split between having some laws or having none at all. I think, once that keeps going, that we could possibly end up with a small revolution trying to free Serenwilde from it's perceived dictatorship.

Magnagora seems, to me, the same as always. From the outside looking in it appears very static. It moves towards the same goals constantly. That is not a bad thing, just a perception.

Celest I think is ripe for strong leadership/citizens to take hold and push it as a city towards a role and situation that is more in line with what the playerbase as a whole believes it should be; a light-pushing zealot city.

I think each community needs to be less monolithic.

More actual RPing.. from everyone!

Celest I agree it needs to be a bit more anti-taint in actual action.

Magnagora just... well I just dont get the whole kissin glommy --- thing but thats just me.

Serenwilde needs to get off of ANY city friendliness and I dunno... find some more things theyre strongly for or against and actually make it -publicly- known so it CAN be rped

Glomdoring... no comment

I'm curious as to what these friendliness towards the cities you guys are referring to. What the hell do you think we should do? Distort all the rifts to Ethereal, alchemy ban the cities, forest everywhere, kill Southgard and Ankrag miners and get enemied to the two cities?

I'm sorry, but to think logically, no organization would ever want to make enemies with all other organizations at once because that would be plain stupid and asking to be crushed completely by the combined enemies. Mag fighting Celest and SW at once, anybody? Furthermore, since it is -impossible- for Serenwilde to access Astral to harvest sparkleberries or bash or get enchantments for fighting, most of us are hesistant to get enemied to both cities at once. Anti-Taint and anti-light are fine, but Serenwilde has nothing to gain and everything to lose if it completely isolates itself from the Basin and shuts out all outside influences.

How about, neutrality with an emphasis on trying to disuade advancment through conversation?

Instead of this... You can't do this, you can't do that... wait, lets fight you... now maybe we will fight you instead..

I'd think that maintaining trade relations and neutrality agreements without socializing too much with either of them would be fine. Not that I feel like I'm in position to tell people what should they do, just an idea.

The problem I see with Serenwilde, is that people should, by nature, be wary of cities, not socialize with them, and just in general be a lot more focused on the forest than on anything outside that. But in practice, people have cityfolk as friends and relatives, and we can't stop that without coming off as entirely too heavyhanded. We shouldn't HAVE to be harsh on people, they should do it on their own. But they don't.

That can be difficult, many people on all sides are trigger-happy, so to speak, so it can turn to fighting and war over silly matters. I like your idea in theory, I just don't think it could work. It would end up Celest vs Serenwilde vs Magnagora vs Celest and, seeing as how Serenwilde would potion-ban it's enemies during war (logical, unfair but due to game design at this stage, lets not whine about that), it is easy to assume that Magnagora and Celest could possibly form an uneasy alliance to stamp all over Serenwilde. We really do not have enough talented fighters to go down that path.