Bricriu2005-04-13 20:20:27
If you actually get to the point you cannot get away at ALL, you are going to die anyhow, to a tarot user or not. We don't do big damage like a knight does - we have to set things up and go for an instakill, like soulless, if we want to take out anyone bigger than a newbie when we're not in a group, generally.
Unknown2005-04-13 20:20:44
Amaru started to redo his strategy with soulless, but Kaervas did what every soulless user does who I fight against. Constant paralysisng and webbing
Unknown2005-04-13 20:22:01
QUOTE(Guardian_Shiro @ Apr 13 2005, 08:17 PM)
What i'm saying is, they rub the card upon your body. You should have some means to cure it, or it should dissapear after a certain time. Its the only instant kill you can't dodge from
96759
Come on, if you could cure it, it would be impossible to pull off, you would cure it whenever you had more then 3 or 4 rubs on you.
Jack2005-04-13 20:22:28
QUOTE(Bricriu @ Apr 13 2005, 08:17 PM)
He prolly died to it, and wanted to know why he couldn't tank it like an astral monster.Â
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I think you're right.
Unknown2005-04-13 20:23:59
Yes I died to SOulless, and its stupid its the only instant kill that can't be stopped.
Jack2005-04-13 20:25:04
If I was out of mana vials and afflicted to hell, I wouldn't be able to flee from Toadcurse.
Does that make it entirely unstoppable?
Does that make it entirely unstoppable?
Silvanus2005-04-13 20:26:16
You forgot about chasm, and soulless can be stopped - move away when they are rubbing you, and if you are dual webbed, paralysed, focus body then:
Syntax: EVOKE TIPHERET
For those who embrace the Center of Perfection will be freed from all bonds, both physical and spiritual.
Or shrink yourself. And you writhe out of hangman web fast.
Syntax: EVOKE TIPHERET
For those who embrace the Center of Perfection will be freed from all bonds, both physical and spiritual.
Or shrink yourself. And you writhe out of hangman web fast.
Unknown2005-04-13 20:26:21
Toadcurse is a trans skill, Soulless isn't.
Unknown2005-04-13 20:27:16
QUOTE(Guardian_Shiro @ Apr 13 2005, 08:23 PM)
Yes I died to SOulless, and its stupid its the only instant kill that can't be stopped.
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You can flee when it's flung, it will get wasted and they'll have to rub you 7 times again.
Jack2005-04-13 20:27:19
So, uhm, it's okay for a skill to be entirely unstoppable as long as it's trans?
In that case, sure, put Soulless as trans. It's sure better than World tarot.
In that case, sure, put Soulless as trans. It's sure better than World tarot.
Unknown2005-04-13 20:29:35
Soulless should be the trans skill for tarot, I would of loved it when I was a celestine
Unknown2005-04-13 20:31:53
QUOTE(Guardian_Shiro @ Apr 13 2005, 08:26 PM)
Toadcurse is a trans skill, Soulless isn't.
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They can switch Soulless with World, I don't care.
Bricriu2005-04-13 20:33:21
It's RIGHT under Trans, anyhow, and the trans is worthless.
Stop in because you died, honestly. We're all tired of listening to biased stupidity. Learn to avoid soulless if you are that scared. It's as simple as say....moving away?
Stop in because you died, honestly. We're all tired of listening to biased stupidity. Learn to avoid soulless if you are that scared. It's as simple as say....moving away?
Shiri2005-04-13 20:51:48
QUOTE(Jack @ Apr 13 2005, 09:25 PM)
If I was out of mana vials and afflicted to hell, I wouldn't be able to flee from Toadcurse.
Does that make it entirely unstoppable?
Does that make it entirely unstoppable?
96777
Heh. Actually, toadcurse lets you get away anyway though.
And Soulless isn't THAT hard to get away from. I think you can actually tumble through Carcer without a problem, but I don't know. I just noticed that when I leaped through Carcer, I hit the bars and got soulless'd by Nayl, but when I tried to roll on the next spar I got out easy.
And focus body, writhe is NOT hard to do in 8 seconds, flee. (Might be my bias due to size 9 (I got enlarged) talking though.)
Sylphas2005-04-13 20:53:21
Yeah, get tumble, you'll be fine.
Unknown2005-04-14 07:37:23
EVOKE SHIRO
Not only will this powerful sphere, one of the strangest ones outside of the Tree, nerf all the skills you don't have to oblivion, but it will also upgrade your skills to be unstoppable, fill your power reserves, and make you into a Vernal God. Note that before you evoke this sphere, you must chant the phrase "I tihnk that soulles is overpowerd and shouled be curd by focus spiirt."
Seriously, I have yet to see an idea for "balancing" from you that is not a "I don't like the fact that I need to think to use this skill so nerf it please" kind of request.
Not only will this powerful sphere, one of the strangest ones outside of the Tree, nerf all the skills you don't have to oblivion, but it will also upgrade your skills to be unstoppable, fill your power reserves, and make you into a Vernal God. Note that before you evoke this sphere, you must chant the phrase "I tihnk that soulles is overpowerd and shouled be curd by focus spiirt."
Seriously, I have yet to see an idea for "balancing" from you that is not a "I don't like the fact that I need to think to use this skill so nerf it please" kind of request.
Murphy2005-04-14 08:42:18
Shiro you little girly man
Evokte tipheret, and focus body. then run.
Souless is easy to run away from, just dont let yourself fight in a rubbled and cercered room
Evokte tipheret, and focus body. then run.
Souless is easy to run away from, just dont let yourself fight in a rubbled and cercered room
Thorgal2005-04-14 09:14:55
There's also this weird, mystical ability called tumble, making it impossible for Soulless to ever get pulled off...
Soulless is the only decent ability a nihilist has to kill really, and even at that it's impossible against anyone with tumble.
Bitch about skills that have no counter, not skills with 565 ways to prevent.
Soulless is the only decent ability a nihilist has to kill really, and even at that it's impossible against anyone with tumble.
Bitch about skills that have no counter, not skills with 565 ways to prevent.
Murphy2005-04-14 09:17:09
agree tuek, given that wrack sucks!
but torture isn't too bad with omen and sensitivity
but torture isn't too bad with omen and sensitivity
Thorgal2005-04-14 09:21:49
Torture with omen and sensitivity is a one-time thing, if the target isn't dead after that one torture, you can't kill it anymore untill you regained all your power. Because by the time you regain equilibrium from torturing (8 seconds), your target will be fully healed again.