meh, it seemed like daevos only sent tells of the same nature, and he wasn't long enough to have any conversation with him, so I assumed he must have been talking about stagmar who he did actually have a conversation with.

Nope. Speaking of Daevos.

The only thing I said to Vesar, was to ask him how he could be so foolish. I guess in a way though I should be flattered that they are trying our own tactic against us, but it was foolish for two reasons. One, Magnagora is finally giving Celest what they had been asking for, a break from constant war, and they endangered that with this incident. And two, they did it way too early, giving us more than enough time to break the demense and put counter measures in place.

Thanks for seeing it right Vesar, that's what I'm trying to achieve. Been trying to build it for a while, making her get edgier with each day. Developing a split in personalities, very holy and devout on one hand, and very cold on the other. It's turning out to be an awful lot of fun.

As for the treaty... well... it really wasn't meant to include the villages it seems, so there was nothing 'wrong' as such with placing the demesne there. It was a bad move however... at least in my opinion, because if the defences there were weak enough to allow you to place a demesne there, you alerted them to it before you really should have attacked. (Which I think was the point Daevos was making.)

The conspiracy well... Elaria believes it wholly... as for myself it seems far fetched. Somewhere between that post and nothing happening is where the truth lies. The truth of that matter doesn't bother me, it's where the characters think it is.

Elaria's always seen in a manse with munsia, getting up to all sorts of things....

really, why Munsia? she's a fool!

Well people are theorising that Elaria is going mad after all.... why not put all doubt behind? They'll be spending far less time together in the future.

I think that's enough hijack Murphy ^^