I know you can wisp without a meld, personwhosehandleIdon'tcaretocheckbackon, it just needs forest. It's been used against us plenty of times for us to know by now. I was listing just a few things that can be done to make evey attempt crappy - a Demesne is one beat down. Paired with those NOT hartstone, but having wisp, it makes things rather hard to progress.

Edit - was being mean for the sake of being mean.

Obviously ethereal glomdoring and ethereal serenwilde have to be seperated so that it is impossible flowing from one into the other, or wisping from one into the other, or for one group to meld the opposing territory, same with flow in their prime counter parts.

Give me an orb of creation, 5 minutes, and a pack of twinkies and I'll make it happen.

I was just saying thats what has to open.

They just need to be transcontinental.

Incidentally, it's impossible to wisp into guards in Ethereal FULL STOP. See, it's not local area. Trust me on this one. You can't even wisp from Etherglom to Faethorn.

No, not really. Simply because you're confining yourself to think that "If I can forest one part of one plane I can forest the other parts" doesn't mean that it *has* to be changed in order to make sense.

Well I'm pissed to no end.

Not only have they designed this whole thing to make serenwilde be completely against it, they have designed it without giving the parties interested any skills or abilities to fight back with it.


hurrah!

This was VERY VERY VERY bad planning on the admin side, I'm sorry.

Well, it will get better when the commune comes in, because if we flow to you, we'll eat totems. Unless of course we chop them down before they grow into a totem...

Bleh. You're right, we need that fixed. Only able to flow to purified forest sounds good to me. That way we to get into Glomdoring and forest before anyone can flow, but can't just come and go as we like.

I wish I had some ebonguard skillz and power.

You can always get someone to stand in ethereal and tesseract to them as well... Not -all- of us are enemied to Serenwilde.

Well Im working on becoming famous through deathsight appearances, so at least its good for something.

You know how this is going to play out?

People are going to come in when nobody else is around and do something, then when people come around its going to stop, then when people are sleeping again its going to advance.

Nothing it going to change, unless serenwilde feels like sitting in ethereal forever and ever doing nothing else for the rest of thier game lives.

Its stupid and idiotic, although I should be thankfull that now I reason to not log in anymore. Theres nothing to be done.

Tesseract takes way too long. And it has nothing to do with being an enemy. If your goal is to kill -anyone- then all you need is one person to say.. flow to X, and X will die.

Like Elerial, the elfen with the perma-death wish?

Elerial comes in, stands around with grace.
Grace wears off.
*dies*
Elerial comes in, stands around with grace.
.. *dies*
He did sit there and cure some of us of our blindness and deafness repeatedly though

Kudos for persistence, though

But yes - OOCly I am all for it being made a little more fair. Inability to distort Ravenwood, for example.
But while it is like it is, I'm not going to make up excuses IC for my char not to do his best to stop what is happening.

And this is why I like the Magnagoran players better. They actually care about competition and earning what they get.

My question is.. What exactly is the Serenwilde supposed to do, in the eyes of non-Seren-players?

Is it viable IG role for Serens to say, Well, you're doing exactly what I'm supposed to STOP you doing, but I'm sure I have a reason to let you be...

That's not me trying to be an ass, I am honestly interested what non-Serens think we should do IG.

Anyway. Bedtime. Finally.

I thought I was specific that Viravain only cared about the Glomdoring spirits rising and wasn't that concerned about the faes actually bonded there. Not sure why anyone would beat his or her head against the wall in doing a quest that currently has no benefit to Glomdoring, especially given that the Raventree is not an active nexus and offers no defenses to protect them.

But if that floats your boat, go for it!

The divine have hard coded it for you to kick our asses into oblivion, so i guess unless they change some things like hart/crow, and the fae thing, we are going to just get pwnt over and over till viravain steps in and just goes poof, heres a Commune.

First, you can stop killing people who are just sitting and watching.

Second, you can recognize that Serenwilde has no claim or right to the glomdoring forest. This would be like Magnagora sitting on the water plain telling everyone they can't sit enter.

Me for example.. I logged in, I walked a few rooms, saw some bloody mist thingy said 'Whats this?' And then suddenly died.

Real fun that is.

Oh, and heres a FRIKIN idea... TRY TALKING TO PEOPLE!!! Everything but a few minor steps up untill this point regarding glomdoring has invovled wonderfull RP from people, who had conversations with people, trying to come to comprimises with Fighting only a threat.

So far, every violent action has been started and continuned by Serenwilde. Even when Magnagora was hanging around they sat still with itchy fingers using RP and conversation to get the mood that existed.

Why don't you all just do what you really want to do and start killing things randomly and melding the world and just flowing to things and killing them in an endless bash fest.

Killing people is not going to change any outcomes, its just going to make sure that when the commune is around, serenwilde is locked out like the plague, and killed often in retribution. However, talking to people, having civil arguments and all those fun things has been shown allready to affect the outcomes of situations. (i.e words said to Viravain by mortals have shown up in her posts)

When you urged everyone on, after saying 'Oooh fae' and then not seeing the next 'pawprint' is what made people think they needed fae to get the next nature spirit awaken.... However, the situation right now is that Serenwilde sits on the bloodymists and kills anyone who enters the plain.


The thing that really got me upset, was when Gwyllgi changed from 'Oooh fae, thank you, let me put him in his shadow pod' to 'ooh fae... kill them yourself you lazy dog' That to me ment there was no chance in hell Serenwilde would back off.

Dag you had me agreeing with you 100% until you made the comment about the Mag players being the only one to talk or actively doing anything other then fighting. That's a load of horse hockey.

My character and I know several others from the Seren have been trying very hard not to make this an idiotic blood bath. Cronnacht has talked with Visaeris, Elerial, even briefly with Erion. He bitched up a storm when people wanted to jump Gwynevere and Xenthos for just being on plane.

It sure as heck doesn't help any when Gwyllgi opens up his mouth and says your all fools, there will be no agreements, Hart and Crow must fight, Moon and Night must be enemies, now get out of my face before I kill all of you.