Right, but I just couldn't write 'water', that would sound stupid...

Thing is, Celest has Light as a Cosmic set of beliefs and water as an Elemental domain, which are not even tied too strong. In Magnagora, both Elemental and Cosmic domains are taint.

That is because the aquamancers don't RP as Celestians but more like a seperate state that just happens to geographically lay in New Celest. The water plane should represent what is pure and good, just like Celestia. The critters drop light essence for something.

water and celestia = original basin as it should be VS earth and Nil = basin twisted by something foreign

Hmm, and yet so many loved ostracizing Lacostian for his ambivalence towards the Taint, and now they expect Him to look kindly upon them afterward? Many are luck Lacostian even acknowledges their presence.

Btw, flood is pollution, it's not clear water, it's dirty and carries a lot of nasty germs and such. Can cause epidemic. Saying that tainted means dangerous and polluting but flooded is just fine is also wrong.
Unless it's not normal water but water somehow infused with Light.

Aquamancy flood is clear water. It's not the same as RL floods.

This is why the Alyss approach to the taint, always made sense. If its not near my tree... I couldn't care less.

If an aquamancer can make water flood a desert then he can use some elemental magic thing to make it clean and germless. Also only stagnant water causes epidemics of watergerm related things. However they always told me the light can't leave Celestia, so the water couldn't be infused with light even if it would make more sense, Infact I would prefer a flooded room to say "Holy water floods the room here" or something so that aquamancers WILL feel connected to New Celest's light propaganda. It would also make Celest a bigger problem to the Serenwilde because the light is known to harm nature with the entire turning their Fae into cherubs issue.

Ofcourse I could just have had someone misinformed about the light all togheter.

Flooded line:

This location is flooded with shallow, crystal clear water.

Sure doesn't sound polluted to me!

Yeah, it's bad that water's not connected to Light while in Magnagora both elemental and cosmic are the same thing - taint. Celestians can flood without worrying too much about Serenwilde because 'it's just water, crystal clear even', so meh, when Magnagora tainting is 'omg taint', but both demesnes are meant to provide advantage to the city (if only for regeneration).

But doens't sound like something lighty either. It just seems to me the aquamancer used some skill to keep dirt to the floor and that light has nothing to do with it. I have seen real life areas flooded with crystal clear water because it was undisturbed for a while.

However if it says "The location is flooded with shallow water that emits a holy light" It would definatly be a light related even to the biggest noob, like me.

And untill a god tells me it's light infested i'll believe it just water clear of everything, including the light.

The Starry Sea is flooded with light.

Spore grass.

And wormwood, I think.

Don't forget thornbeasts and twisted ravenwood trees. And of course teh Master Ravenwood.

Perhaps a bit of a nitpicking response, but Nil and Earth aren't representative of solely "Taint". They're tainted, yes, but they still represent separate elements. Whereas Celestia is Light and Water is ...water, Nil/Shallamar is Truth, and Earth is, of course, earth.

So, the elements of Magnagora are technically Tainted earth and Tainted truth, the later of which makes a lot of sense if you look at Magnagora's perspectives. They believe in absolute advantages, and aren't concerned with "morality" or other subjective/artificial limitations.

-Nok

Taint is what you get when Kethuru eats bad clams.

The tainted say that it is a force of change. They say that the tainted forest is more beautiful than the untainted, the tainted body stronger than the untainted.

The un-tainted say that it is a force of change as well, but, they perfer the un-tainted things.

That part is really a simple matter of perception. The part that makes the taint "bad" to the un-tainted is that, the tainted want to taint the un-tainted -against their will-. So the tainted are trying to force the taint onto the rest of the world and will let nothing stand in their way to do so. Just think of the taint as a religion... all of a sudden these people want to force you to become a part of their religion, and will kill you or brainwash you into it... and there's your reason for fighting the taint.

Honestly, if the taint were a real thing, would any sane person side with it (assuming you're not already tainted *eye*)? I sure as hell wouldn't

Yet, I am a Magnagoran. Why? because without 'good' villians what would all you wannabe heroes do with your time?

Well, I'm still not sure what is principally undesirable about the Taint's existence, but I suppose that can be left unknown for now.

I think I will resolve my conflict simply by having Elryn (and myself) continue to view the Taint as a force upon nature rather than a force of nature.

That has always been the crux of my despair at an organization professing that they are just the 'darker' aspects of nature embodied by the taint. It implies that what remains (ie, the nature that wiccans and druids follow) is necessarily incomplete and therefore their understanding is flawed.

As for the taint itself, I would still like to encourage the administration to make it clear what sort of reasoning is behind opposition to its spread. "It's different" isn't exactly easy to work with.

Why is 'It's different' Not easy to work with?