Faeling Specialization

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Nokraenom2005-04-23 11:51:22
I really don't see what the big fuss is about. If anything, it gives you further reason to support your roleplay as an untainted faeling.

The Taint does provide power, there's no doubt of that, as evidenced by Magnagora's survival of the Taint Wars and the following years, but it comes at what many consider to be a price too great to pay: namely the loss of humanity/true spirituality. These faelings have been corrupted by Night and Crow, both themselves Tainted, and are the product of Rowena raping the Fae. Simply put, they're abominations.

In the immediate sense, I can see your concern because they are more powerful than you, but from an overall balance perspective they're fairly in-line with the other specialization races. So perhaps you shouldn't focus so much on your personal comparison to the new tainted race, but rather overall balance.

In terms of RP, this can be a great rallying point for you to further the belief that the Taint is evil/wrong, and that it corrupts all life it encounters.

-Nok
Unknown2005-04-23 11:56:00
I'm realling liking the racism it's going to bring to us Faelings, we never had anything to be rcist against before...
Me: Bah, rot on Nil You worthless infidelic aboration, how dare your toung let slip you call yourselfes a Faeling!
Infidel: umm..... *haymaker*
A Soul of Me: Oh yea...REAL cute...
Actually... that would be kind of cool! Someone send one of your infidelic Fae after me so I can yell at it for about 20 mins, then you can kill me free of charge!
Murphy2005-04-23 11:58:06
how bout i send an infidelic set of flails in the form of a pulp...does that count?
Elryn2005-04-23 12:03:28
Incidentally,
QUOTE(Lisaera @ The Lusternia Help System)
Bearing particular fondness for Elfen and Faelings due to their
origins in Her splintered sister Elfenehoala, Lisaera is known to be
contemptuous of those races twisted by the Taint, the Orcs and Viscanti
above all.


I knew it. Now even my favourite divinity is forced to address a contradiction. The fun never stops.

Admittedly, this is a minor thing that is easily glossed over and explained.
Unknown2005-04-23 12:39:11
Yay for Faeling specialisations, just what I wanted happy.gif

Looks very cool. The Ebonguard Faelings will rock immensely and I think it will be good fun for those playing it. As for Shadowdancer... well... I don't think the specialisation does enough. Faelings should make good druids though I think, so I shall become one.

I'm so happy with the change happy.gif
Rhysus2005-04-23 14:05:44
I am incredibly disappointed in a number of you Serenwilde players posting on this thread. You are all acting like five year olds having been told to share their favorite toy. Get over yourselves. The game went in a direction that was unfavorable to you. Wow, huh, wouldn't be the first time that's happened to someone. The specializations for Faeling have been around for less then a day, and everyone seems to know exactly how they will affect combat. This isn't the sort of thing you can extrapolate out on, there are too many variables. Give it time. As concerns the talk about not calling them Faelings or it somehow ruining Faeling RP in the Serenwilde...Why? They are Faelings. They have been twisted by the shadows, but they are clearly still Faeling. What exactly are you upset about, that now there will be Faeling living somewhere other than Serenwilde? How will that hurt Serenwilde's Faeling RP? If nothing else it will give you something to rally behind. Rather than moan about how unfair it all is, try doing what the rest of the world does when things like this happen and roll with the punches. You're just going to lose more and more respect in the eyes of others if you continue this charade of victimization.
Unknown2005-04-23 14:14:54
Quite right Rhysus... if nothing more this CREATES so many cool RP opportunities. I'd love to meet Ialie or Laysus again for example when I become a true Shadowcaster. It would be such fun.
Thorgal2005-04-23 14:19:12
Elfen and faeling started out equally attuned to the forests, elfen specialize in serenwilde, faeling in glomdoring, how the hell can that destroy faeling "RP"?
Ialie2005-04-23 14:28:33
*sigh*

I quit. (with this topic)

I truely hope they come up with super uber spiced up Merians called Mertaintians and super viscanti called Vislightians that turn the normal races into pitiful shadows of what they were.
Thorgal2005-04-23 14:32:37
Eesh, high elfen are much better than shadowcaster faeling, and shadowlord faeling have such crappy strength that it balances them out towards elfen lords. I can't see how faeling turn anything into pitiful shadows.

It only turns unspecialized faeling into pitiful shadows, and that's exactly what they're supposed to do.
Shiri2005-04-23 14:35:00
Shadowlord Faeling have as much strength as Aslarans, incidentally.

Unlike other specialisations, this one COMPLETELY leaves Aslaran in the dust, as they are better than them in EVERY WAY.
You don't get that with other classes. Like, it used to be that Elfen were MOSTLY better, but Faeling had a sip bonus.
And Viscanti were MOSTLY better, but Dracnari have the fire resistance.

Things like that.
Gwylifar2005-04-23 14:57:48
QUOTE(Elryn @ Apr 23 2005, 01:25 AM)
Of course, by then I'm sure there'll be a change to Lisaera's order when we find out in fact she is a demon not a real goddess. I mean, that is still something I like, so I'm sure it has to change.
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That's funny. I just made a list of plus and minus things for me in Lusternia, and Lisaera is just about the only thing left on my plus list too.
Rhysus2005-04-23 15:16:05
This was always my worry about Glomdoring. From every IRE realm, since I started playing in them five or six years ago, the Forest types are always the exact same. And moreso than any other group, they are extremely overprotective of anything they view as "theirs" which, incidentally, they always seem to take great liberty in declaring. So now, we inject a bunch of people who are typically not forest types, into this forest scenario, and the immediate result is this huge backlash of anger from all the traditional forestals, because things they viewed as inherently "theirs" now has to be shared in some sense with a group of people they otherwise disregarded as being the brutes that killed them or the customers they took vast sums of money from. It's a dangerous situation because I think it's going to breed a whole lot of discontent from that portion of the playerbase, but I hope they get over themselves and start acting mature about it soon, for the sake of the realm.
Lisaera2005-04-23 15:59:18
QUOTE(Gwylifar @ Apr 23 2005, 02:57 PM)
That's funny.  I just made a list of plus and minus things for me in Lusternia, and Lisaera is just about the only thing left on my plus list too.
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Awww. I feel so loved. wub.gif
Shoshana2005-04-23 16:09:58
QUOTE(Rhysus @ Apr 23 2005, 10:05 PM)
They are Faelings. They have been twisted by the shadows, but they are clearly still Faeling.
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This is what annoys me. Shadowlord Faelings are not still clearly Faelings. Faelings are tiny little intelligent critters with butterfly wings that flit around with insane charisma and will die if you swat them too hard. I don't mind them being twisted to be shadowy evil-type Faelings, that's what I was doing with my character anyway. I mind the fact that they're losing the whole point of being a Faeling. It's like making a Tae'dae mage specialisation, it just doesn't fit what Faelings are meant to be... Even the Wicca specialisation is pushing it a bit as far as I'm concerned, but it's still recognisable as a Faeling at least.

I also understand the Serenwilde people's distress about it, although I don't think it's quite as bad as they're making out. It's rare to see Merians outside of Celest, or Viscanti outside of Magnagora, because that is their almost exclusive race. And now they're wondering if that's going to happen to Faelings, even though they're held in such high regard and have such an affinity for Serenwilde. It's a valid concern, although I don't think that it will happen personally.
Icarus2005-04-23 16:17:13
While I feel for Elryn and Ialie, that there isn't much point in being a Seren faeling any more, then we must remember there are other crappy races that people have been begging for a review from day one: Krokani? Orclach? Taurian?

Now looking back, it's obvious that the level 3 balance upgrade you got earlier was done with Shadowlords in mind sleep.gif . Unfortunately, it's just how Lusternia is, either pray to the gods that the admin see things the way you do and wait for them to balance out, or cough up 100 credits and reincarnate. Not much sense or rp in that, but that's the price you have to pay for a superior race.

dunno.gif
Jadryga2005-04-23 16:29:47
QUOTE(Ialie @ Apr 23 2005, 06:55 PM)
Why should a faeling druid in glom be more powerfult than a faeling druid in Seren?

Even if a faeling were to leave glom and go rogue after becomming specialized they would still be all uber and stuff.
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Because, Ialie, you're missing the point here. Faelings are already attuned to nature, which makes them the faelings they are now. What makes them better in the Glom (which, whether you like it or not, is still part of nature, trees and grass and all that icky organic stuff, albeit tainted) though, is that not only are they attuned to nature, they have been mutated (in a good way) by Night and the Taint. Even if they leave Glom and go rogue, the marks of Night and Taint is still on them. I believe that is the RP base for it.

Faelings are not exclusive to Serenwilde, faelings are exclusive to NATURE. See above statement about Glomdoring being still part of nature. Elfen were chosen to be exclusive to Serenwilde.

From an ooc point of view, I think arguing that faeling in Serenwilde should be just as good as those in Glom is selfish. You're not only implying that the Glomdoring specialized race be taken away, but also that Serenwilde should have 2 specialized races.

Elfen were the chosen Serenwilde race. Live with it.
Icarus2005-04-23 17:08:42
QUOTE(Jadryga @ Apr 24 2005, 12:29 AM)
Because, Ialie, you're missing the point here. Faelings are already attuned to nature, which makes them the faelings they are now. What makes them better in the Glom (which, whether you like it or not, is still part of nature, trees and grass and all that icky organic stuff, albeit tainted) though, is that not only are they attuned to nature, they have been mutated (in a good way) by Night and the Taint. Even if they leave Glom and go rogue, the marks of Night and Taint is still on them. I believe that is the RP base for it.

Faelings are not exclusive to Serenwilde, faelings are exclusive to NATURE. See above statement about Glomdoring being still part of nature. Elfen were chosen to be exclusive to Serenwilde.

From an ooc point of view, I think arguing that faeling in Serenwilde should be just as good as those in Glom is selfish. You're not only implying that the Glomdoring specialized race be taken away, but also that Serenwilde should have 2 specialized races.

Elfen were the chosen Serenwilde race. Live with it.
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You can think up all the rp reasons for having uber faelings, I think the point of the argument being they are vastly superior to another race of similar concept, superior to many other races in fact and that creates an imbalance.
Ialie2005-04-23 17:29:56
I am not implying that it should be taken away, or that we should have two specialized races.

I just feel so jaded I guess. I thought the best possible place for me was serenwilde. I was wrong.


For every specialiation they are in their best chosen city/commune. It looks to me as if all the faelings will be in glom.. and the picture I had of faelings will cease to exist.

The specialization is what makes the norm in Lusternia it seems. Every faeling will almost be expected to go Glom. Phazing out any of the nomral faelings.


I guess thats just the way I feel. *shrug* I don't know.
Unknown2005-04-23 17:33:41
QUOTE(Elryn @ Apr 23 2005, 06:03 AM)
Incidentally,
QUOTE(Lisaera @ The Lusternia Help System)
Bearing particular fondness for Elfen and Faelings due to their
origins in Her splintered sister Elfenehoala, Lisaera is known to be
contemptuous of those races twisted by the Taint, the Orcs and Viscanti
above all.


I knew it. Now even my favourite divinity is forced to address a contradiction. The fun never stops.

Admittedly, this is a minor thing that is easily glossed over and explained.
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I'm beginning to think the same of you, actually. More so than anyone else, you're arguments are simply childish and unfounded. Get over the fact that Serenwilde doesn't have all the Faelings now.