Kind of hard to mix a mostly OOC thing like Envoy reports with, IC, someone who should definitely not still be in the guild.

Hahhaha, you got pwned out of your Commune, Visaeris.

(Wtf are Bad News Bears? )

I'm praying this is just the admins throwing us off, like with the untainting of the glom bit. Because if this is our commune, they balanced kick arse skills with the uber shatty leaders.

I think the leaders are good choices, thus far. Gwynevere seems to have an established reputation as a moderate Moondancer secretary and Daganev is a pretty typical warrior that suits Glomdoring well.

Quite honestly, I think that choices like Erion and Visaeris would have been incredibly detrimental for the Commune. Both of you lack the self-restraint necessary to lead effectively, you're both offensive, and you both are just general asshats. To have you lead Glomdoring's guilds would doom the Commune, at this early stage in its life, to be a realm of griefers and whiners.

I think Viravain has made choices that are completely in-line with her worldview and perspective. She has chosen those who have served her well, not necessarily served Crow or tried to serve Glomdoring (and their own personal ambitions for power). So, while the leadership isn't perhaps as evil and blatantly inappropriate as you might have enjoyed (because let's face it: rape isn't an acceptable or appropriate thing to make light of), I think it will allow Glomdoring to be a diverse and culturally-rich Commune, while still being slanted towards evil and domination. Glomdoring being merely a small collection of "we art evil! oh how thy darkness penetrates mine cold heart!" groupies wouldn't have been interesting beyond about a week. I think Viravain's bipolar and xenophobic personality make for a great Patron, and it will be interesting to see how the Commune follows that.

Another thing to consider is that all the Disciples of Crow (both original and the later crew) have this idea built up in their heads of what Glomdoring is "supposed to be." The actual implementation of the Commune will pretty clearly never meet your lofty (or, in my opinion, misguided) standards of how everyone should act and how things should be run. In that respect, I think you've given yourself a grievous disadvantage, because no matter what happens Glomdoring will not be the Commune you expect or want it to be. It will be influenced by everyone who is a member, and everyone who has a voice. The only way it would even be remotely similar to how you envision would be if Viravain suddenly decided that Richter, Visaeris, Erion and Akraasiel were going to rule the Commune (and I'm just naming the most outspoken Glomdoring/Crow advocates here), and even then you'd see a lot of infighting and compromise among that group.

I guess, in a sentence: get over it. The Commune will evolve and change, and it won't always be in ways you expect or support.

-Nok

Im actually very pleased with the current selections of Viravain.

Well, with Moralis getting on CT proclaiming himself some form of leader, and Gwynevere saying he can go into our guildhall because Viravain likes him, it just gives me twirks. Gwynevere doesn't seem to rule much - she lets others rule.

Old school movie in America about a Little League baseball team who sucked really bad, and under good coaching and other stuff, became the best.

AKA The bad news bears.

Except this time they don't have good coaching. I mean, when you put someone who is incredibly passive, and then someone who thinks that being a retarded bear is spectacularly awesome and can't find his ass from his nose in a discussion, you're going to have problems.

So when you guys get a druid guild, is Moralis going to be in charge?

You have to figure...

Serenwilde started up, and pretty much everyday we'd have some massive argument on CT with 50 other people screaming not to argue. Happened like clockwork and got so bloody annoying that people just turned CT off and trickled off to other places. They recovered.

Some of those people have moved on to the Glomdoring, and you add them in with people from Celest and Magnagora. Three different views on how the place should grow in design. Expect massive differences for some time to come.

And the fact that most Magnagorans who actually know how to roleplay that went to Glomdoring will hate Gwynevere, due to the brainwash Magnagora has pounded in their head since they were born. Merian and Elfen and Faeling = bad, Viscanti and Taurian and Orclach and Taint = Good!

Plus, you have all these Serenwilders who refuse to forget their Serenwilden friends. And then you got Viravain denying that there is such thing as the Taint, and that Glomdoring isn't Tainted, in whichcase I proved earlier, and only a few people actually see it that way.

I have to respond here. Daganev a warrior? Unless by warrior you are just referring to the Archetype and not trying to infer that he has more combat potential than my dirty socks.



And the current choices are even worse than "griefers" - I mean two of them were chosen just because they decided to keep stupid accent. Well to be honest I don't mind Daganev's, but Moralis lost my respect the moment he aped the Hypellos (who were just plain annoying) accent from Final Fantasy X instead of trying something remotely original.



Except the fact you seem to never remember is that they don't care WHO gets the positions, as long as someone with half a brain who doesn't seem to spend most of their time acting like retarded snugglebunnies get the spots.



Of course there is going to be some deflating of their dream of raising the Glomdoring commune, but at the moment it isn't a case of deflating what they thought Glomdoring COULD be but a feeling of trashing it to the point of oblivion - which considering what most of them have been through already on the coolness scale of 1-10 rates a -15 ranking of Extremely UnCool.

I totally love the fact that all the current leaders had absolutely nothing to do with Glomdoring in any way, shape, or form until the last series of events that actually brought about its being.

I expected to see Visaeris, Richter, and Erion topping off the 'help glomdoring' file, but nope. Not a single person on the top of that list had anything to do with the early efforts. Looks like we did waste our time, Visaeris. That's too bad.

Every snuggly Serenwilder who wants to be a b@d@$$ dark fairy anime ninJa is flooding in, it would seem. Seriously, who the HELL let Moralis in? He should be banned; he's done more to degenerate the game simply by speaking than I could have in twenty page-long OOC shouts. Wait, no, someone give that kid an award. That takes talent.

*Cough*

Anyway, yeah. My money is on Hallifax now, because I know half of Magnagora is going to go there, and Magnagora is 1337.

*Scuttles under his rock*

Guido, you're making the same mistake of myopia that so many other people make. Things that you didn't see, did happen. People did stuff without you knowing about it.

What's mixing you up is what mixes Viravain up: is this Glomdoring or Gloriana? I, for one, think the best thing in all this is how that question and the insanity and ambiguity in the answer in Viravain's mind has made it all come out -- so far -- not like anyone expected and yet completely consistent with all that came before. All kinds of people who were doing stuff are getting something back for it -- not just the people on any one side of anything who mostly worked without knowing about what the others were doing. And it seems very likely to me that this is far from the final chapter, too.

I'm confused, Hartstone is running Glomdoring now or something? Last time I was logged on they were begging me to go fight Thaemorn and Munsia because they didn't have anyone who could undo their demesne.

I just read the first few posts, then decided to stop reading to reply. So, if what I am about to write had already been mention I apologize.

Visaeris, Glomdoring is past the fetus state and has now been born. Rejoice, and help the commune through it's developement to become what you want it to be. Remember, everything for Glomdoring is too early to remain eternal and continous. Things right now may change and will change once everyone within the commune takes root, and you pass your phase of infant rebellion. Glomdoring may just end up having a hard upbringing as Serenwilde did. I remember the commune never agreeing, and having about 1k posts in just the first weeks. Now, the Serenwilde is different from what it was... and it took a lot of events to change. If you dislike what Glomdoring is right now, bite the bullet and try to manipulate it on becoming something different. You have the commune and the guilds already, that should be enough to be happy and to stop complaining about things that have just begun unraveling, imo.

Edit: One more thing, I've always considered that the sun has to set at a given hour. The daytime can't last forever, can it? What is the big fuss of people being snuggly or whatever, they may change and become more somber and gradually fall into character... So just brace yourself, and let the events Glomdoring will experience mold your "snuggly" leaders, or you'll eventually end up overthrowing them. Take notice, Serenwilde isn't lead by Nikua anymore, to me that hints that leaders are completely replaceable.

Don't whinge about me. I had no intention of staying in the guild, and had made it clear the day before. I wanted to finish the damn envoy report because Auseklis, whose Order Bau just happens to be in, was the reason Bau was Envoy and she didn't want to let him down.

And, if you think I'm part of a mass exodus, you obviously don't know Bau and her opinions of the Hartstone and the Serenwilde at all.

First to Visaeris. If you don't understand that what Virvain said IS an ideology, well then, there isn't much help for you.


I was rather shocked I became the GM. However, I believe the reason I was made GM had NOTHING to with my accent, and EVERYTHING to do with my rp.

Daganev's history shows that he had ties to glomdoring, remember this via Viravain, and Viravain intially calling him Tae, made Daganev have a certain affection for her.

The idea behind Viravain is loving her, and worshiping the ground she walks on , as well as her forest.

I'll leave it at that for now.

Viravain is the center of the universe? The leaders are made out of her most faithful adulators?

Everything will be fixed once Viravain allows contentions.