Saplings...

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Soll2005-04-26 20:24:53
Yeah, you can put single things into angels/demons.
Revan2005-04-26 20:26:20
Even if the shadowdancer sips the potion, they still have to turn the Fae against their opponent again which, in a retard vibe and getting hit by your oppoentn, can be a tricky thing.
Terenas2005-04-26 20:26:26
I mean if used in choke. I know it's crap otherwise.

Giving one affliction with two swords is fairly easy, but it becomes quite a bit harder to try envenoming while you are aeoned. Especially if you're doing it for both weapons.
Terenas2005-04-26 20:27:19
QUOTE(Revan @ Apr 26 2005, 08:26 PM)
Even if the shadowdancer sips the potion, they still have to turn the Fae against their opponent again which, in a retard vibe and getting hit by your oppoentn, can be a tricky thing.
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Wrong, disloyalty doesn't work until a few seconds afterward. If you cure it within 5 seconds or so, there is no need to order passive and re-attack.
Shiri2005-04-26 20:28:13
QUOTE(Revan @ Apr 26 2005, 09:26 PM)
Even if the shadowdancer sips the potion, they still have to turn the Fae against their opponent again which, in a retard vibe and getting hit by your oppoentn, can be a tricky thing.
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Not so. When I was sparring Eiru, even when aeoned you can drink a love potion quick enough to stop yourself having to reattack with the Fae. (I have horrible JAVA reflexes, so after I got aeoned and was midway through sipping phlegmatic, he disfigured and my love alias went off.)
Revan2005-04-26 20:28:18
Also, I have the option of just infusing a manna rune while fighting a shadowdancer, so I don't have to worry about afflicting the person happy.gif
Nayl2005-04-26 20:28:20
QUOTE(Shiri)
Ur'guard giving disfigurement is disloyalty EFFECTIVELY? *choke*

No, no. That's definately a Nihilist skill.

Wra-Ong
Disfigurement is in Necromancy
Revan2005-04-26 20:29:28
QUOTE(terenas @ Apr 26 2005, 04:27 PM)
Wrong, disloyalty doesn't work until a few seconds afterward. If you cure it within 5 seconds or so, there is no need to order passive and re-attack.
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I thought it worked immediately. Meh, my bad. It's still an effective tactic, and if you're stubborn about it, it'll eventually go through. Provided you survive.
Shiri2005-04-26 20:35:01
QUOTE(Nayl @ Apr 26 2005, 09:28 PM)
QUOTE(Shiri)
Ur'guard giving disfigurement is disloyalty EFFECTIVELY? *choke*

No, no. That's definately a Nihilist skill.

Wra-Ong
Disfigurement is in Necromancy
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No no.

I mean it's a skill that Nihilists should use, not Ur'Guard, because using an eq for an effect when the Ur'Guard have no passive skills like that is a no-no, especially when the Ur'Guard has no way of stopping them just sipping love and reattacking in the time it takes them to get eq back or whatever.

Infusing Manna, maybe. (If you're not a dreamweaver.)
So it's not an effective target for, basically, anyone except runists. :/
Unknown2005-04-28 13:47:20
Simple answer?

Charismatic aura.

I never turn it off, and it makes you immune to disloyalty for a constant mana drain.
Unknown2005-04-28 14:24:25
Not everyone can afford heavy mana drain.
Shiri2005-04-28 16:47:11
Wiccans can.
Jack2005-04-28 17:51:22
Gogo sprite!
Unknown2005-04-28 18:22:49
I just realized how freaking far off topic this thread's gone...

Oh well, the original question was resolved, so I'm not going to bring out my /hijack hammer.

And I need to trans influence so I don't get my own fae turned against me... that's just painful sad.gif
Shiri2005-04-28 18:32:53
Your Fae attacking you is the least of your worries. Love potion solves that really easily.

The REAL problem is people ATTACKING your Fae. Now damn is that a pain. dry.gif
Revan2005-04-28 18:34:24
Forget love potion. Charismatic aura! There's no way to stop it... although there should be.
Shiri2005-04-28 18:38:40
Love potion is fine, though, as there are few purgative requiring effects (icefloe, pollen) so you're unlikely to get messed up there, and aura requires trans influencing, which isn't easy to get.
Revan2005-04-28 19:29:12
Still, there's a way to stop every other damn ability in this game (except flow), why shouldn't there be a way to hinder Aura?
Thorgal2005-04-28 21:45:54
Angels nor demons can be invested with repugnance or disloyalty.

And fighting in choke is really something you can't theorize about, just practice some, most people arguing about it haven't even experienced it a single time.
Terenas2005-04-28 21:50:50
QUOTE(Thorgal @ Apr 28 2005, 09:45 PM)
Angels nor demons can be invested with repugnance or disloyalty.

And fighting in choke is really something you can't theorize about, just practice some, most people arguing about it haven't even experienced it a single time.
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But some of us have fought in Retardation + full vibes before. There are little to no significant differences between the two except that the faes can still hit at their normal cycles without any interruptions. I sincerely dread the day that some Shadowdancers would draw 6 hexes, lay down choke, wait until they have full power and just allhex. I'd like to see anyone try to cure out of that.