Let's clarify this.

The only artifacts I have (and have ever had) at the moment are:

A Scepter of Arcane Force (+15% magic damage)
A Changeling Cameo (lets me change race once a Lusternian month)
Two artifact pipes (you know the drill)
A collar on my pegasus (resets it to my inventory every 18 hours, but I've forgotten riding now anyway)

Haha, that was good

I voted no. I think the idea of these runes is just great. You could put the price of them up a bit, to 500cr per rune maybe - but definately not decrease their effectiveness.

If you think Murphy is doing way too much damage, then you don't even want to know what he has suggested in his Envoy report.

Yeah, I was expecting that. >_< >_< >_<

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What did he suggest?

Well from the post it's probably something about upgrading Bonecrusher, Blademaster or Both, so yeah. I'm glad i'm not against them anymore.

hit it fair and square on the head there thorgal....but then again you know the pain of being a knight

firstly, envoy reports are something that should be kept off the forums, if you wanna talk about it with my privatley then contact me on aim or on game or via pm, its certainly not something to be discussed publically.

And secondly, for your information, I also touched on elemental runes in my envoy, as well as some other changes so that a warrior could kill someone with something OTHER than damage, which has been my point all along, as a matter of fact if we could affliction kill reliably, then I'll trade in my elemental wounds on my flails.

EDIT: For my third point, Terenas i never suggested a single damage upgrade for knights, so whatever you're snorting......share it

I DO A LOT OF DAMAGE! HEAPS!!! thank you

Narsrim, myself, and Malicia shared the same feelings when we read the report actually. But since this isn't the Envoy board, we'll just keep them off until the admins read over and implement what changes they deem needed.

I'm a bit confused by this. Elemental weapon runes do not increase the base damage done by the weapon. It's just that the defenses against blunt and cutting are easier to come by, which gives the impression that it does more damage, when in reality what is happening is the target is defending less of the damage. So the amount of damage that elemental runes increase weapons is 0 points. I think you should be asking about if defensive spells and items against other damage types should be increased.

Make the Magic skillset defend against elemental damage as well, and give us either a lightning vial or stronger proofs.

Problem solved.

I agree with that, magic should defend against all magic types.

I think Roark already stated that Magic will not protect against elemental damage awhile ago in a seperate thread

Then make elemental poofing protect more!

And/or reduce the percentage of damage that is transferred by elemental runes.

But really, a recalibration of damage on the whole will absorb this question into its folds, and is needed anyway.

The thing is, you need artifact runes to beat other knights and guardians. I find this stupid, that a archtype is so much based on artifacts.

810 damage.

This was when Daevos didn't have elemental runes and I had an 80 cutting fieldplate.



1837 damage.

This is me with 115 cutting fullplate, drawdown, and Daevos possessing lightning runes.

He did over 1000 damage more. Yeah, really, I'm not taking anymore damage at all!

Of course, but the result is still an increase in damage of up to and over 100%, no matter how much resistance the person has. If you make proofs powerful enough to bring the damage of elemental runes down to reasonable levels, you're gonna completely nerf mages, so the only options left is either making Magic protect against all elements (which it should do anyway, for 300 credits )...or reduce the amount of damage the runes convert.