I've got no control over that.

Their own.

Aye, but whats it called?

Anyway, both Nil and Celestia are on the cosmic plane but they are quite separate... couldn't the catacombs be the same, if its going to stay on the Ethereal?

The Spirit Plane.

No. We want them on Ethereal, because we want -everyone- to be able to access them. End of story.

Also I am not against tesseracting at all, if you have spent the credits on planar, you should be able to use it.

That was why the Toscha pits were moved originally though.

Why the turnaround in attitude?

At a guess.. Toscha pits is an honours quest area..

Catacombs is just bashing(?)

Eh. Alright.

(I'm not complaining BTW. Just curious. Matters little to me.)

Shiro mentioned something about a Catacombs quest so there might be an hono(u)rs quest there too.

Catacombs is an honors quest, can tell that by now. Its long, and you get these discs.

We didnt want people tesseracting into the spirit plane because it bypasses alot of the Tosha quest. Bypassing Krangar to get into the catacombs is fine by me.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that.

I'm a bit like Shiri... its not a big deal, but I would have preferred the catacombs on the Cosmic plane, or at least off-continent from Ethereal.

Meh, I guess we'll just have to wait and see how it goes. It's still a wonderful way to introduce a primarily city vs city conflict area on the planes.

Well ethereal was preferred because knights can get there easier, and shallach has alot of history dealing with ur'guard.

Aye, that is true, though I thought the main way to get there was by doing Krangar's quest?

If you mean tesseracting, any plane can be reached by tesseracting through the Aetherways.

There are alot of ways to get past Krangar.

Orclach will be able to clear it like these things are rats.

Level 3 cold resistance.

Meh.. Trouble for Dracnari. come on elemental poofing and changing magic to include elements!!!

Guess that was the point! Nice.