Well, orclach would be a good race for bashing there, if they didnt' SUCK SO MUCH

seriously, lose the balance penalty and give them 4 more int and +1 str and they'll almost be as good as dracnari

A place with cold-damaging monsters? Hmm, I wonder if I might be able to bash there, Aquas have fairly good heat/cold resistance...

But where is it, exactly?

they'd be better than dracnari.
No sip penalty, level 2 regen

Bah, not if you wan't to map the thing it's not. I died two rooms into the catacombs, vitaed, died again and thought... ohh well I can at least have a look around as a soul... then I conglutinated...

Those things did 2000 damage to me!!

You won't be able to map at all while as a soul.

dracnari's surge is way better than orclachs

Good to see more offplane areas for non restricted PK to thrive.

I just hope it doesn't develop the 'idiot's code' of 'this is a bashing ground, wtf are you doing PKing here, stfu roleplay', like Astral has done.

For those who complained that shallach does not give as much xp as astral, it now has the same xp bonus as the astral plane.

it should give MORE do to the mobs being harder and it being more of a bitch to get into!

Garshades = pain.

those garshades are as tanky as hell... it takes 3 of us to take down a group of 3... and thats with a we might not make it out alive... this is around lvl80. Considering each of us can tank at least 3 astral mobs at once the shallach ones really seem like they're not worth it. In 4 hours i got like 3%... though i really do think astral is too easy and did enjoy fighting shallach more...

We just reduced the amount of health garshades drain, which means both that they'll take less from you and they'll give less back to themselves.

When I look at orclach stats, I can't really find a reason why they're made out to be so crappy...they seem pretty damn decent to me. They are about 4 times tankier than a viscanti, nearly as strong, more resistances and no sipping penalty.

That means it'll be an insane bashing ground for Celestines. Radiance > UD.

The fire penalty REALLY REALLY gets them. I mean, I thought orclach were good too, but I wouldn't want to think of one getting within 11 rooms of an Aquamancer staff, it wouldn't be pretty.

It's mostly just that they're boring, I believe.
Worse races are Krokani, Aslaran, Furrikin. :/

They also have slow balance, which they don't deserve.

And slow eq.

And as Shiri said, the level 3 weakness to fire is pretty damn extreme. Level 1 would be more appropriate, I think.

I can't find this place! Someone give me directions or at least a hint?

i heard the entrance is in Ethereal Glomdoring...is that right?

Nope