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Unknown2005-04-30 18:11:33
Anyone know if Kmuddy or TF run on Windows XP? I'm getting belayed getting my linux OS's...
Unknown2005-04-30 19:24:02
QUOTE(Seraphi @ Apr 30 2005, 01:11 PM)
Anyone know if Kmuddy or TF run on Windows XP? I'm getting belayed getting my linux OS's...
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Kmuddy is not designed to run on windows or cygwin, it requires linux with KDE/QT libraries. Tinyfugue runs well on windows. You can install Cygwin and compile it from sources if you like, but cygwin is a bit buggy. http://www.druware.com/products/tinyfugue.html has a tinyfugue binary designed to run on windows without cygwin, and it works quite well (it's what I use when stuck on a windows box at work).

The other option, and the one I most recommend if you don't want to use windows, is to download a Knoppix ISO and boot up your computer with it. Knoppix is a bootable linux distribution that won't touch your hard-drives. I use it as a rescue disk and to run TF when I can't take my laptop with me. Once you boot up with it, download the tinyfugue sources and install it (./configure, make, make install). http://knoppix.net/
Unknown2005-05-01 02:49:05
Know about knoppix, didn't remember it, and i have one sitting around in my cd case somewhere. Thanks! While on the topic of linux, I'm getting Gentoo with KDE... any suggestions on a better OS? Like Fedora Core 3? I myself messed around with Red Hat version 7 when I was about 13 (16 now).
Unknown2005-05-01 04:22:48
If you're comfortable with Gentoo (editing config files occasionally and compiling your own software) I'd stick with it, or perhaps move to Debian. I'd highly recommend staying away from RedHat, Mandrake, Suse, or any other "newbie friendly" linux. Gentoo and Debian are a bit harder to get setup and installed, but once you get the hang of it you have ALOT more flexability.

I started out in RedHat 5 years ago. Over the next two years I messed with Mandrake and a few others, ending up with Suse for a year (I even actually bought a copy for $70, the manuals it came with were great). At that point I was pretty comfortable with how things worked.

I started getting annoyed by the limitations of the GUI configuration programs for things like webservers, databases, etc. I started poking around the config files and figuring out what needed altered based on Google research and man pages. I got into Gentoo a little over a year ago, after a few months of that I moved to Debian and have been using Debian Sarge (testing version) for the past year.

I love Debian. It has the best package management system, a huge user base, awsome mailing lists and irc channels, etc. I do hear a few bad things about it however, and with some of them I agree. Many people dislike the "attitude" of users on the mailing list and irc channels. I'll agree that many are jerks, who think they know everything, and that you're an idiot for asking. Well, 9 times out of 10 I've discovered that they DO know everything heh. If you're able to read between the lines and not get your feelings hurt, you can learn an awful lot too. Personally I'd rather get help from jerks that know what they're talking about, than really polite people who don't have a clue.

The other complaint is that the installer is hard to figure out. This is also true, it's not a pretty graphical installer like some of the others. However, it's NOT the satan derived crap-hole it's made out to be. It's really not that bad, and it's documented VERY well on the website. I'd recommend the first time you install it to pick the easy automatic options, and when asked what packages to install just pick the basic "desktop computer" option. It only takes around 15-20 minutes to install it that way, and you'll be able to start poking around. Once you get that basic install under your belt, and are comfortable using aptitude (they're package maintenance program), you can try reinstalling and picking some more interesting options. Too many people jump into the complicated parts thinking they know what they're doing (I'm just as guilty of this as everyone else laugh.gif ).

In the end, there's a flavor of linux for everyone. If you've found something you like and that does what you need, stick with it and learn as much as you can. That's the beauty of linux, you're not forced to conform to any one setup. But if you're really looking for a suggestion...Debian Debian Debian Debian!!! biggrin.gif
Unknown2005-05-01 06:05:31
Hehe, well I have two boxes, and since I am no programmer, just a programmer in training, I will mess around with Fedora Core 3 for a bit on one of the boxes, and get Gentoo on the other one. I tried Debian a while ago and it didn't work too well, but after I get the hang of Linux a bit more, I'll come back to it. Thanks for the info BTW, your brilliant!
Asarnil2005-05-01 06:42:09
Actually, if you want an easy to install Debian distro, I suggest grabbing a copy of Libranet 3.0 (2.8.1 if you want the free fairly old by now version). All the power of Debian with all the ease of use that the newbie distros provide.
Unknown2005-05-01 13:45:53
I didn't think of it until this morning when I woke up, but there's also Ubuntu Linux. It's strongly based on Debian, and from what I hear is very user friendly. The Knoppix disc you have been using is also based on Debian. tongue.gif
Asarnil2005-05-01 15:06:29
DO NOT use Ubuntu, I repeat DO NOT use Ubuntu. The reviews you are getting of it are EXTREMELY exaggerated.
Unknown2005-05-01 15:40:01
I'll have to look into it sometime, never used it myself. I went for the real thing biggrin.gif
Unknown2005-05-01 16:13:37
Right well I"m looking into the Debian jigdo installs cause i'm on a dialup... i have everything figured out but:

Name Last modified Size Description-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parent Directory -
3.0_r0/ 01-Dec-2002 15:48 -
3.0_r1/ 06-Dec-2003 01:24 -
3.0_r2/


I checked the documentation and could find no answer. I feel very dumb because I know I should know this.

ALSO, I'm having trouble figuring out which architecture to download it for... I have an AMD Athalon 1600+ 1.41 GHz cpu, and I don't know if I need i386 or something else. Do you know?