Because it's the only viable place to hunt for people of any reasonably high level. When you make it no longer a viable place to hunt... do the arithmetic... that leaves none. People want to hunt. When there's viable Prime hunting, this will be a non-issue.

Of course there's also this little minor point that some people still like to roleplay and would prefer if things happened for reasons, but even I admit, that's becoming a pretty implausible reason for a complaint, and not only when Murphy is involved.

He was attacking non-combatants too. No past crimes. So it's just not true.

Well, I have little at all to do with Amaru.

Heh, sure, fair enough.

And Gregori didn't decriminate against combatant or not when he herb-banned, and I don't care about cheap Xp, its not a bother, if i did i'd be killing stagar and aesyra regularly.....

This was revenge for the herb ban which you all enforced so brutally, and all the raids on dwarves.

Not to mention all you gotta do is pay murphy 15k gold for 2 years worth of protection, a small price to bash on astral, so its not like im not leaving you any outs here, but potion ban is like as astral ban, both inhibit your ability to progress

Heh, no.. As I understand it, you imposed this new 'ban' because of your deaths in Estelbar during play. This is what happens when you make Mags pray. That wisp trap pissed you off. In the end, we won it fair and square, as Mag wins their villages. Brute strength or strategy, a win is a win. We won it. This has nothing to do with an ALCHEMY BAN.. not a herb ban. If we're at war and we impose a trade ban, that's how it goes. If novices suffered in Mag because of it, they can only blame their leaders for constantly making decisions that force our hand. Non enemies to the Seren and young novices were still serviced.

For the last time, there are normally only TWO OR THREE alchemists around and I can barely get refills unless Laysus or Tuek is around. Tuek doesn't make a profession out of it, so I rely on Laysus mainly. Your claims are bs. Glom refills for you now.

If any Serens actually pay you to let them bash on Astral..... You wouldn't like it if Serens and Celestians decided to make your peoples lives hell on Astral because of your actions.

Well thats strange, I can get refills virtually any time of the month from Serenwilders - and on the rare occasion that I remember who the Glom refillers are them too. Your alchemist situation is nowhere near as dire as you make it out to be.

It's incredibly amusing how the direness of the alchemy situation varies depending on which point Magnagora wants to make at the time.

IF the Magnagorans want to show that the trade ban is ineffective and thus we shouldn't do it, why, it's incredibly easy to find refillers, and we're all just stupid for not being able to achieve it as easily as they say!
IF, however, the Magnagorans decide that for whichever particular day it happens to be the Seren players are evil oppressive scum who are only out to ruin the game for hard working raiders, well then, it's suddenly true that all those refillers are so hard to find! Perhaps they're using some form of magical or psionic power to alter their numbers so that their point can remain valid. Or maybe they're just BSing for ~ half of the time. YOU be the judge!

Did you just come up with this ban after the Estelbar influence or something? Considering the Alchemy ban was a while back why didn't you do this beforehand? If you're going to be killing random people just because you can, at least be willing to admit that you're a griefer for killing people that have done nothing to you before. The Alchemy ban didn't kill people if they didn't do any hunting or fighting, you're just deliberately out to cause as much pain to others as you can. Ur'guard Troopers killing random newbies on prime, Ur'guard champion killing non-combatants on Astral, pathetic.

Didn't you get the memo? Magnagora had a meeting and decided that since 95% of the city has a larger suspect list than me, we had to re-define griefing as cutting down ravenwood saplings. Therefore, Murphy is not a griefer.

Its open pk, you know the threat when you go up there. Quit your bitching and do something back. Did people cry when they got killed in the underworld on achaea? No because they knew the threat. Good job Murphy, I may just join you later on if you are continue this. In conclusion..quit your whining and look for an ingame solution.

No, Terenas, he started it with claiming that he attacks all of Hartstone on Astral because of Thaemorn's and Munsia's actions against Glom. He probably didn't notice that Lomdomian wasn't from Hartstone when he attacked him....no wait, this time he claimed that someone hired him...that all happened Friday....on Saturday he decided to ban all Serenwilders, then he got screwed in Estelbar...poor, poor Murphy.
Obviously I was that special that he never offered the 15k-thing to me, instead he decided to jump me, he even needed Marcalo but still failed.

Asarnil, you say that you have no problems getting refills, lucky you...and of course it matters a lot that you are not an enemy.......some people don't want to realize that it has consequences when you are enemied to a city/commune....so stick your reasons to attack me and other serenwilders because of herb/refill bans to some dark spot, Murphy...you are enemy -> no cookies

Edit: What I forgot is that Murphy probably changed his astral tactics after he realized that the only druids going to Astral are Thaemorn, Elryn and myself...not much fun with those few.

Narsrim, my suspect list is a grand total of 3!!

And malicia you goose, it would be really stupid of me to start going nuts on serens on astral while you are the ONLY alchemy around, i had always been biding my time till glomdoring could refill reliably, the estelbar thing made me do it about 2-3 RL days before I was going to, but i had always planned revenge.

Call it an XP ban for your potion ban. Things like that always bite you in the ass.

And the number of alchemists around means jack all, you could have 3 or 30, iuf they aren't refilling for mags then they aren't refilling for mags. Even if they are hard to find, if you aren't banned you can still get a big order through, like 50k gold at a time like I do

Murphy, you don't want to get it....maybe moondancers are not allowed to refill for mags but Hartstone doesn't have that policy...they just don't refill for you because you are an enemy....I guess that is difficult to understand.

Niara how bout you quit with the pschoanalytical and quit judging me when you don't know me.

I jumped you, then you ran and so i didn't speak to you....you actually have to speak to murphy for the 15k deal.

And i could say the same to you niara, you are enemid -> no cookies

and its open pk for a REASON and yes I am also RPING my role, justifyiably so....so how bout you stick to bashing prime or water, if you want the big XP of astral then there are risks, it was coded that way, dont like it? tough, deal with it them's the rules.

Hey you should know by now that Astral isn't for PK, people who go there are clearly exempt from being killed because it's the only decent bashing area!

Plus half of them do nothing but bash so must be an exception to things.

No one is arguing that Astral isn't open PK. It's when people start making up reasons for their actions. Murphy is killing Seren because he can, it's not RP, it's not for any reasons other than it's open PK area and he wants cheap and quick experience. If he could just admit to that instead of it's revenge for the ban, or it's part of his new protection program, then that'd be different.

People die on Astral all of the time, Torak. No one's bitching. It's Murphy and his bs 'reasons' for doing it. Instead of trying to come up with an excuse for hunting Serens on Astral, he should just admit that he likes to hunt people on Astral. The alchemy ban crap is bs. Asarnil got refills just fine. He proved my point perfectly. If you're an enemy, you won't get serviced. Mags don't enchant for me, as I'm an enemy. It doesn't take a freaking genius.

Even though you repeated the same things I said.

Damn, Terenas got his in first. I hadn't even read it, but it's saying the same thing pretty much. Heh.