Lichdom

by Narsrim

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Niara2005-05-03 16:59:02
Maybe because some people think that it is cool, Lisaera. wink.gif
Singollo2005-05-03 20:42:03
QUOTE(Lisaera @ May 3 2005, 10:10 AM)
Fain is an administrator, he is an official of the game. He makes mistakes, as do we all, but if he says something, it's the same as any one of us saying so.

Neither liching in nor transversing in are bugs. Though why you would want to kill yourself to get into the Catacombs when there are much easier ways I don't know.
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Ok, I was misinformed then. Liching doesn't waste XP, so why would they care? I mean its not like anyone, especially Magnagora, does exceptional RP.
Xenthos2005-05-03 20:43:01
A fair bit of power loss?
Singollo2005-05-03 20:46:28
Its what, 10 power for a huge stat bonus at night and a moderate one in the day?

I get a +1 int bonus, lvl 1 mana regeneration and some physical resistance for 10 power, and that's worth it.
Xenthos2005-05-03 20:48:38
Yeah, but I believe when you use it, you lose whatever power is in your prompt, PLUS having to put it up again. So if you do it right outside the gates, you lose 10 power for putting it up, then another 10 after you've reformed on the other side.

If you had it up beforehand, you could lose 30 power (the 10 that's in your prompt). Which is a somewhat significant chunk (if I'm wrong on that part, it's "just" 20 power lost.)
Singollo2005-05-03 20:50:22
Its their choice to use it like that. It really should be like soulcage in Achaea and only usable once a month... since it is that, but better.
Shiri2005-05-03 20:51:09
QUOTE(Singollo @ May 3 2005, 09:46 PM)
Its what, 10 power for a huge stat bonus at night and a moderate one in the day?

I get a +1 int bonus, lvl 1 mana regeneration and some physical resistance for 10 power, and that's worth it.
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You mean a moderate FALL in the day.

That said they have the non-gust-contagion etc. too, but.
Unknown2005-05-03 20:51:37
QUOTE(Singollo @ May 3 2005, 08:46 PM)
Its what, 10 power for a huge stat bonus at night and a moderate one in the day?

I get a +1 int bonus, lvl 1 mana regeneration and some physical resistance for 10 power, and that's worth it.
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Moderate loss in the day, you mean.

Edit: Damn you Shiri.
And when you compare lichdom to trueheal, it doesn't look so great anymore.
Singollo2005-05-03 20:54:11
Nobody debates the overpoweredness of trueheal in its current form.
Shiri2005-05-03 20:55:12
You'd be surprised, Singollo. X_x
Singollo2005-05-03 20:57:06
Nobody who doesn't use it to their advantage?
Thorgal2005-05-03 21:26:59
QUOTE(Singollo @ May 3 2005, 10:54 PM)
Nobody debates the overpoweredness of trueheal in its current form.
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You need to get out more..

Even Narsrim or Tuek don't have any problems with lichdom how it is, unless it's used in situations to circumvent quests.

And Singollo, I don't think any changes to lichdom, upgrades or downgrades, would affect your character in the slightest. It's not like you actually fight any necromancer is it?
Vix2005-05-03 22:31:52
QUOTE(Hajamin @ May 3 2005, 08:55 AM)
About the obelisks, I got clarification and it is not a bug.  I originally told Daevos that because I thought it might be, so I asked him to not use it.  As it has been declared not a bug, transverse away.
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So if it's not a bug, then shouldn't distorting the gate prevent the orcs from entering the village?
Singollo2005-05-03 23:48:42
QUOTE(Thorgal @ May 3 2005, 05:26 PM)
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You need to get out more..

Even Narsrim or Tuek don't have any problems with lichdom how it is, unless it's used in situations to circumvent quests.

And Singollo, I don't think any changes to lichdom, upgrades or downgrades, would affect your character in the slightest. It's not like you actually fight any necromancer is it?
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They both came from Aetolia and Imperian. You know how bad soulcage was in Achaea, and lichdom is incredibly similar, and a bit better, even with the bad stat mod during the day.

I don't care if it doesn't affect my character, I see it as something that warrants being looked at. I personally find it absolutely stupid to put one of the best shop stealing mechanisms in the hands of people who are the most likely to do it, for example, even though I will most certainly never own a shop. And I fight in every battle that I'm around for (ask Murphy on this one, he's targetted me many times). I can't knowingly say the same for you. I don't have a lot of time to log in (I lead a busy real life), since I try not to idle around and defenses cost a lot here, so I don't do much one on one combat (which is really not necessary in my experience with Lusternia). Would you like to try again?
Daganev2005-05-03 23:52:42
Using 23 power to get past a gate that you can get past in many other ways is a bit odd and masochinistic I would think.
Singollo2005-05-03 23:54:38
Well, if its night time you get stat mods to make up for it, if you don't have them already and lose absolutely no experience. Power is becoming less of a commodity these days (unless you're being rediculous like Amaru and using 90 power to def), so it's a smaller trade off.
Daganev2005-05-03 23:56:03
Ummm, you get those stat bonuses if you use the other methods of entering the catacombs as well you know... *boggle*
Singollo2005-05-03 23:56:36
But its convient to get the all in one package and simply skip a quest or walk.
Daganev2005-05-03 23:58:51
yeah.. the only reason I could see someone using lichdom to enter the catacombs is A. They just got killed at the gate and want to run away... or B. They like the idea of dieing to enter the catacombs of Urlach cause you know, they died and stuff.
Unknown2005-05-04 00:35:07
QUOTE(Thorgal @ May 3 2005, 11:26 AM)
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You need to get out more..

Even Narsrim or Tuek don't have any problems with lichdom how it is, unless it's used in situations to circumvent quests.

And Singollo, I don't think any changes to lichdom, upgrades or downgrades, would affect your character in the slightest. It's not like you actually fight any necromancer is it?
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I think Lichdom could use some tweaking. Unless the Lich user is in some very unique and special situation that they stupidly got themself into, they will never have to pray or lose experience. I think the period of time you have to run as a soul could be shortened, OR make it so they are unable to move off of eye sigils BUT they don't lose equilibrium upon reforming. One or the other.