It's gotta be a Serenwilde divine.

No-one else would hate us enough to give us skills this lame.

So explain why Stagcurse and Darkmoon suck.

Fain made them for you?

I dunno. At least you can sorta.. hit people with swords.

Dude, don't you have any clue at all? Whatever their abilities are, they only have two ways to kill someone, just like moondancers, damage and toadcurse.

1) Their damage is stopped entirely by holding breath, and even if you do hold breath, Tuek and Narsrim will explain to you how fun it is trying to kill someone tanky with wicca damage.

2) They don't have lash, which is the only way of draining someone's mana, just sparkleberry is more than enough to keep up your mana against any of their passive effects. The barghest for example will never paralyse, cause it only works if they're not deaf. And again, Tuek and Narsrim will tell you how much they'd like it if lash would be taken away from them again.

Shadowdancers might have some nifty abilities, but they just cannot kill.

I think both moondancers and shadowdancers need an additional instakill resembling judgement. Both their defence is good, but their offense sucks equally.

I'm referring to this point.






Seriously, stop contradicting yourself. If their only methods of killing someone is damage or toadcurse, just like the Moondancers. How are their offense weaker?

Tuek killed Murphy with moonburst, he's pretty tanky, what's your point?

And lash is not the only way of draining someone's mana. They have banshee just like Wiccans do, and they also have choke, I sincerely don't see how they are weaker offensively. Defensively I have to agree, but their offensive is much better than a Moondancer's.

Moondancer offense is better than shadowdancer's, because they have lash, period.

Narsrim nor Tuek manage to phase anyone with decent curing if they go for damage, they always have to toadcurse, and to toadcurse, they have to whore lash as fast as possible, and hope their opponent has a serious sipping penalty. Even with lash it's very hard getting down someone's mana, without lash, it's impossible.

I don't think you have any clue at all about IRE combat other than some moderate experience as a knight, Terenas.

Paladins only have one instant kill, should we get another one based on some other guildset?

I find that ironic since the first post of this thread shows Tuek killing Murphy with moonburst...he didn't even toadcurse when Murphy's mana was slow. As a matter of fact he only lashed Murphy one time the entire fight. You were saying?

Heck, even amissio would be appreciated at this stage.

Something

Murphy can't cure.

Paladins have Bashbrain/Behead and Judgement. Two there

If you manage to get your opponent's head in critical condition, you have a
chance of splattering his or her brains from here to kingdom come. The result
is in instant death.

Shall I list you the reasons why this isn't considered an instant kill? Just like burstorgans, its based on a chance. If you manage to get your head to medium damage, then it won't work.

My god, you can't be this daft, at least TRY hiding your stupidity. Murphy didn't even cure any of the hexes. Murphy's a good warrior, but his curing is seriously lacking, if you're venomlocked, aeoned, asleep and at 0 mana, yes, you're gonna die to moonburst.

It's still an instakill, it's just not controlled. I know it sucks and whatever. But when your post consists of one sentence it's hard to tell what you mean or if you're just misinformed...

...it is indeed considered an instakill. If you're talking about CHANCES, then soulless isn't considered an instakill because you can, oh I don't know, MOVE OUT OF THE ROOM to stop it. Which is easier said than done, granted. This "chance" stuff is coming out of your shoe. It's as much an instakill as any other, although it is poor.

Oh, and show us a log about the bugged burstorgans, I'm curious as to whether it is actually bugged or if you just saw them applying the regeneration to the gut and assumed it was deepwounds healing.

My post isn't based on one sentance, you nit wit.

Bashbrain or behead aren't really instakills, they're just natural consequences for being stupid enough not to stance, parry and deepheal your head. Of course if you're taking 2300 damage a round from said bashbraining or beheading knight, the stupidity is warranted

If you want to be blunt

Rather amusing that you contradicted your own point by first stating Shadowdancer's offense is inferior to Moondancers, then several posts later you admit their offense both equally sucks and use Tuek and Narsrim as examples of Moondancers that can only kill decent curing people with toadcurse. If I have to 'hide' my stupidity, then you could at least attempt to pick a point and stick with it, instead of contradicting yourself or resorting to insults every few posts just to attempt to prove you're right.

I'm sorry, I forgot you listed shine as an example of a 'useful' Moon ability in another thread. Your objectivity is truly astounding.