putre down-grade

by Marcalo

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Eiru2005-05-18 15:40:31
That's great, only thing is, you guys are overpowered, and putrefaction only works on physical damage.
So...
Hajamin if you put it back the way it was I'll offer a goat at one of your shrines!
Soll2005-05-18 15:40:43
Crucify fixed. happy.gif
Kaervas2005-05-18 15:42:20
It blocks against cutting/blunt damage only, making it useless against Geb's staff.
Xavius2005-05-18 15:44:57
Oooh, I didn't know that.

Wow. Now I feel sorry for you guys. sad.gif
Unknown2005-05-18 15:45:20
I thought Geb was an Aquamancer, he went Paladin?

Malicia, considering your recent statements about serpent; "omg now that it's being used against us I will agree it needs downgrade, lol im so bad" I don't think anyone is going to care what you think for awhile anyone.gif

Since putre goes off at almost the same speed as a health vial and does almost as much damage, I'd say it's useless 1v1, though could still help you deal with a team of knight's damage better. So maybe not useless, but not to be used in every day situations anymore either.
Soll2005-05-18 15:47:14
QUOTE
8.2.2.2 THE AQUAMANCERS GUILD

                        
                   Guildmaster: Vesar (Archmage of the Aquamancers)
           Guild Administrator: Kalidasha (Chancellor of the Aquamancers)
                Guild Champion: Shamarah (Admiral of the Aquamancers)
                 Divine Patron: Lacostian, the Mysterial Lord
                   Guild Envoy: Geb (Emissary to the Starry Sea)
                      Security: Shamarah, Rhysus, and Acrune
                    Protectors: Trysalis
                   Secretaries: Acrune, Ciera, Wuylinfe, and Kaileigh
              Undersecretaries: Iraen, Joli, Aelon, Razlinn, Asmoth, and
                                Verithrax

                   
                  Novice aides: (nobody)
   Able to inguild and promote: (nobody)


Kaervas meant that because Geb's staff is fire, Putre doesn't defend as Putre only thirds cutting/blunt damage
Xavius2005-05-18 15:52:29
K, Jello, I still dispute this notion that it's worthless. The change may have been a bit harsh, but it's still a skill that can be used in a few remote one-on-one situations. Health vials slightly outpace it (assuming you're right regarding the timing; for some reason I don't believe that putre drain happens as often as sipping), so you have sparkleberry and regen to cover the rest.

Alright, fine, the more I look at it, the worse it seems for you guys. But you have to admit, what is was was completely unacceptable. So, yeah, maybe what it's going to be until the next round of envoy changes is karmic payback.

Maybe?









Sorry guys. ermm.gif
Unknown2005-05-18 15:54:58
Health vials outpace it by 2% (by the looks of these logs), but the damage from putrefaction goes through shield and aura while the damage your opponents would be doing doesn't. I would say that distinction, hard to calculate as it is, would still make more than a 2% difference.

Let's just say I'm glad I went Glomdoring all of a sudden. Hai Hai Glomdoring!
Eiru2005-05-18 15:55:03
How was it unacceptable?
I could list some of your skills that are unacceptable.
I still die to knights like Icarus in 2 frickin' moves, pulp then a combo, and that's with putrefaction and over 4k HP. I'm not lying. He's done it to me like 3 times.
Daevos hurts like hell, so does Murphy, and probably Lazul.
I don't think it's "unacceptable" the way it was.
Unacceptable is absolve when compared to wrack.
Unknown2005-05-18 15:56:52
I read a log of someone dying to wrack. Wow, don't you know you're supposed to stop attacking and shield when you're below 50%? ohmy.gif

I think it was Nejii tongue.gif
Soll2005-05-18 15:57:02
Those knights have Artifacts, it's not skills accessible to all.
Unknown2005-05-18 15:58:43
That's an interesting point, elemental runes probably already made putre not worth it, since they'd be halving its effectiveness.
Eiru2005-05-18 16:01:24
Jello, read it over please.
He did it in two moves, I come in, carcer, and he does that, and I'm dead, because between the pulp and the combo, I'm stunned.
Where did I hit 50%? Please inform me so I may do better next time.
I've wracked a couple of people in my time, but it's almost impossible to pull off, and only people I've wracked were surged, two people. Gorokan and Alger. (I think Alger lost link or something, not sure, he wasn't sipping and said he made a mistake.)

People will get artifacts eventually Soll. It's not like it's impossible, saying something isn't overpowered just because it's expensive is like saying noone should worry about Celestines hitting Titan and being able to infidel/inquisition because of their 15 power.
Oh wait, they do have a titan.
Bleh.

I wub.gif you Aesyra smile.gif.
Unknown2005-05-18 16:02:44
sad.gif Calm down Eiru, I disagree with this downgrade
Jadryga2005-05-18 16:04:23
We already said we're not averse to it being altered a little.

This is ridiculous though.

Putre doesn't have a power cost, but it did have a health drain before. I remember when we were at lower levels, Alger couldn't maintain without sipping, even with mercy. I could, due to my racial regen, but not not everyone is Loboshi. So I think the cost before was pretty sufficient. Raise it a little, fine, but not this. Not to the point where I can deteriorate nearly 2k health in 60 seconds. The deterioration must be even faster for those who don't have racial regen.
Xavius2005-05-18 16:10:01
Now see, that there's why it was unacceptable. No one should be able to "maintain" a skill that scary. A demigod squatting on a cosmic plane, maybe. It shouldn't be a def you put up at the Megalith and sit around with. It shouldn't be something that you see as a bashing norm. Yes, granted, putrefaction just took a major downgrade. Probably too much of one. But if you put it back to the way it was, I'll be a bit miffed.
Unknown2005-05-18 16:13:57
You won't have to worry about the Demi God Celestine, she is pacifist and will never join the battlefield. Don't feel bad guys, you still have decent skills!
Jadryga2005-05-18 16:15:37
QUOTE(Xavius @ May 19 2005, 12:10 AM)
Now see, that there's why it was unacceptable.  No one should be able to "maintain" a skill that scary. A demigod squatting on a cosmic plane, maybe.  It shouldn't be a def you put up at the Megalith and sit around with. It shouldn't be something that you see as a bashing norm.  Yes, granted, putrefaction just took a major downgrade.  Probably too much of one.  But if you put it back to the way it was, I'll be a bit miffed.
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QUOTE(Jadryga @ May 19 2005, 12:04 AM)
We already said we're not averse to it being altered a little.
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I don't understand why no one reads things properly sad.gif
Xavius2005-05-18 16:17:04
No one said is was aimed at you, Jad. Read above. kiss.gif
Nyla2005-05-18 16:18:45
Wait does this mean cudgel is actually going to be useful?