putre down-grade

by Marcalo

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Unknown2005-05-22 12:48:25
It's about 60/40 day/night...us Moon users hate that too.
Murphy2005-05-22 14:49:43
QUOTE(morik @ May 22 2005, 07:43 PM)
.. then you get a knowledge blessing, raising it to 11 int. then you eat a piece of int food, bringing it to 12 int. eating a bit of con food. Bringing you to 17 str, 12 int. Whats surge look like on you then?
122411



ok you need to do your research before making claims.

heroesfetes aren't easily accessable, and it takes work to get blessings.

with con food, a vicanti warrior gets 15 con. But then again EVERYONE can get con food so it cancels the tanikness out in comparison.
Geb2005-05-22 18:45:46
QUOTE(Thorgal @ May 21 2005, 11:00 PM)
If so, I'm sure you also recognize the advantages of:

-being able to instantly ressurrect people on the battlefield,
-being able to ressurrect entire armies from across the world,
-being able to instantly transport entire armies to the enemy,
-being able to aeon and damage anyone outdoors across the continent,
-being able to teleport regardless of monoliths to anyone in the area,
-being able to become immune against any attack in whatever state you are,
-being able to dig yourself in and out of safety unstoppably,
-being able to strip and destroy our only advantage, lichdom, forcing us to pray, since we cannot use vitae if we're liched, as it gets stripped upon reforming.

I can go on and on and on with this list, if you really think magnagora had any more hardcoded advantages than serenwilde or celest, at all... you are just plain ignorant and outright dumb. So unless you want to continue this egotripping of yours, come to your senses.

Excrements covered in flashy comments and expensive words, are still excrements.
122173



"Is it a major advantage that could be debated? I guess the jury is still out on that one."

Perhaps you should take the time to read what I stated, instead of just answering out of your anger over putre. I questioned if lich is a major advantage, and stated in return that the decision on that is still being considered. Also, earlier in the thread, I did state that every community has skill combinations that are very good. So perhaps you should learn some reading comprehension, before you insult someone else's intelligence.
Thorgal2005-05-22 19:08:12
Actually I don't care for the latest putrefaction change personally, due to my active healing and hindering abilities the way putrefaction is now doesn't bother me at all, though this obviously isn't the case for most other necromancers.

Oh, and arrogance reaps arrogance wink.gif.
Terenas2005-05-22 21:54:23
I think we should all look at the quotes in Murphy's sig to see if the drain on putre was even remotely worth the level of protection it gave.

QUOTE
6414h, 1916m, 3340e, 10p elrxk-
Your health is quickly deteriorating.
6414h, 1962m, 3340e, 10p elrxk-


Such huge strain on him for 1/3 physical protection, poor guy.
Daganev2005-05-22 22:15:25
If something is in someone's sig, its obviously not something you can really use as an argument.
Terenas2005-05-22 22:25:50
QUOTE(daganev @ May 22 2005, 10:15 PM)
If something is in someone's sig, its obviously not something you can really use as an argument.
122666


laugh.gif

If statements and claims are made without any basis at all whatsoever, they should be completely disregarded as well.
Eiru2005-05-22 22:28:15
Mercy enchantment?
Perhaps he was in a volcanic environment?
I hope you're not formulating an argument on what's in his sig.
There are always other factors to consider.
Terenas2005-05-22 22:35:17
QUOTE(Eiru @ May 22 2005, 10:28 PM)
Perhaps he was in a volcanic environment?

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There's a volcanic environment? blink.gif
Murphy was a Dracnari at the time, meaning the only thing he has is Mercy regeneration. My point is exactly that, a basic level 1 health regen shouldn't be able to cover the cost of putre.
Rakor2005-05-22 22:39:50
There is, right by the Skarch desert!
Terenas2005-05-22 22:43:31
QUOTE(Rakor @ May 22 2005, 10:39 PM)
There is, right by the Skarch desert!
122682


wacko.gif
Oh, I guess that would make perfect sense then, Murphy was standing on a volcanic environment so with Mercy he had level 3 health regen. It fits together now. happy.gif

Here's one from Murphy's log before putre was downgraded as well.

Edit-

QUOTE
4763h, 1889m, 3310e, 10p exkb-
Your health is quickly deteriorating.
4791h, 1964m, 3310e, 10p exkb-
Unknown2005-05-22 22:44:52
Murphy's sig obviously has numbness or heroism up, since the ticks from putrefaction don't match exactly those of regeneration and one will always go down in health for at least a second. Plus, mercy + level 2 regen doesn't cover 600 damage it would do at that point anyway.
Terenas2005-05-22 23:01:29
QUOTE(Jello @ May 22 2005, 10:44 PM)
Murphy's sig obviously has numbness or heroism up, since the ticks from putrefaction don't match exactly those of regeneration and one will always go down in health for at least a second. Plus, mercy + level 2 regen doesn't cover 600 damage it would do at that point anyway.
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Refer to my previous post. That was from his spar against Ceres when she was a Paladin.
Unknown2005-05-22 23:07:38
Edited.
Unknown2005-05-22 23:09:42
He was showing that is how it was before the change, and no loss in health for a 33% physical resistance was ridiculous.

Edit: Oh damn, you edited yours out, should have quoted.
Daevos2005-05-22 23:40:55
Its still damage taken, since it ate all his regen. 33% protection with a substantial and reasonable health drain, vs 15% and no upkeep cost. Now its 33% protection with a ridiculous health drain. Since it seemed you all were suffering from delusions I took the time to test putre. I tried to simulate a real fight by using rebounding in the test, and I will be posting the results shortly.
Daevos2005-05-22 23:44:40
4555h, 2658m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
Rakor razes your speed defence with a tormented spectre flail.
4555h, 2658m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
A surge of adrenaline courses through your veins.
4555h, 2658m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
Letting a tormented spectre flail droop, Rakor suddenly heaves it up at you. You are barely fazed from getting smited in the gut.
4173h, 2658m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
4564h, 2658m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You eat a sparkleberry.
You feel your health, mana and ego replenished.
4564h, 2991m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You take a long drag off your pipe.
4564h, 2991m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
Letting a tormented spectre flail droop, Rakor suddenly heaves it up at you, and you smoothly step away from the blow. His flail smites through the air, missing you completely.
4564h, 2991m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You bleed 4 health.
4560h, 3057m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
With a focused look, Rakor strikes at you with a tormented spectre flail. You are hit on the left arm and get only a small bruise.
4166h, 3057m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
Tiny tremours spread through your body as the world seems to slow down.
4166h, 3057m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
4166h, 3057m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
4564h, 3057m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You may eat another sparkleberry.
4564h, 3057m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You eat a sparkleberry.
You feel your health, mana and ego replenished.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You feel an aura of rebounding surround you.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
With a focused look, Rakor strikes at you with a tormented spectre flail, but his thrust hits your powerful aura and rebounds back into himself. Rakor hits his own right arm and only leaves a small bruise.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You take a long drag off your pipe.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You bleed 4 health.
4560h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
Rakor razes your aura of rebounding with a tormented spectre flail.
4560h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
4560h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
With a focused look, Rakor strikes at you with a tormented spectre flail. You are hit on the right arm and get only a small bruise.
4213h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
With a focused look, Rakor strikes at you with a tormented spectre flail. You are hit on the left arm and get only a small bruise.
3805h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You may eat another sparkleberry.
3805h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You eat a sparkleberry.
You feel your health, mana and ego replenished.
4261h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You feel an aura of rebounding surround you.
4261h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You take a long drag off your pipe.
4261h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You suddenly perceive the vague outline of an aura of rebounding around Rakor.
4261h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You bleed 8 health.
4253h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
4253h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
Rakor razes your aura of rebounding with a tormented spectre flail.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
With a focused look, Rakor strikes at you with a tormented spectre flail. You are hit on the right arm and get only a small bruise.
4156h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You take a long drag off your pipe.
4156h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
With a focused look, Rakor strikes at you with a tormented spectre flail. You are hit on the right arm and get only a small bruise.
3786h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You may eat another sparkleberry.
3786h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You eat a sparkleberry.
You feel your health, mana and ego replenished.
4242h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
4242h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You bleed 8 health.
4234h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
Rakor razes your speed defence with a tormented spectre flail.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You feel an aura of rebounding surround you.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
A surge of adrenaline courses through your veins.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
With a focused look, Rakor strikes at you with a tormented spectre flail, but his thrust hits your powerful aura and rebounds back into himself. Rakor hits his own right arm and only leaves a small bruise.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You take a long drag off your pipe.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You may eat another sparkleberry.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You eat a sparkleberry.
You feel your health, mana and ego replenished.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
Rakor razes your aura of rebounding with a tormented spectre flail.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
With a focused look, Rakor strikes at you with a tormented spectre flail. You are hit on the left arm and get only a small bruise.
4159h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
With a focused look, Rakor strikes at you with a tormented spectre flail. You are hit on the right arm and get only a small bruise.
3760h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
Tiny tremours spread through your body as the world seems to slow down.
3760h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
3760h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
4273h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You feel an aura of rebounding surround you.
4273h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You bleed 8 health.
4265h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You may eat another sparkleberry.
4265h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You take a long drag off your pipe.
4265h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You eat a sparkleberry.
You feel your health, mana and ego replenished.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
Rakor razes your aura of rebounding with a tormented spectre flail.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
With a focused look, Rakor strikes at you with a tormented spectre flail. Your knuckles are striked with a loud crack.
4165h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
4165h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
Rakor takes a long drag off his pipe.
4165h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
With a focused look, Rakor strikes at you with a tormented spectre flail. Your knuckles are striked with a loud crack.
4156h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-

This test was conducted without any form of regeneration, otherwise I had all of my defenses, excluding surge so that it wouldnt reflect only on the Ur'guard. The above log was without putre.

Total Damage: 3926
Hit Accuracy: 10/13
Daevos2005-05-22 23:46:44
You concentrate for a moment and your flesh begins to dissolve away, becoming slimy and wet.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p lrx-
You say, "Go again."
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p lrx-
You have recovered equilibrium.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
Rakor razes your aura of rebounding with a tormented spectre flail.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
With a focused look, Rakor strikes at you with a tormented spectre flail. Your knuckles are striked with a loud crack.
4378h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You eat a sparkleberry.
You feel your health, mana and ego replenished.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
With a focused look, Rakor strikes at you with a tormented spectre flail. You are hit on the left arm and get only a small bruise.
4340h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You take a long drag off your pipe.
4340h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
Your health is quickly deteriorating.
3906h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You bleed 4 health.
3902h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
3902h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
4428h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
Rakor razes your speed defence with a tormented spectre flail.
4428h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
A surge of adrenaline courses through your veins.
4428h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
With a focused look, Rakor strikes at you with a tormented spectre flail. Your knuckles are striked with a loud crack.
4204h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You may eat another sparkleberry.
4204h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You eat a sparkleberry.
You feel your health, mana and ego replenished.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
Rakor takes a long drag off his pipe.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
With a focused look, Rakor strikes at you with a tormented spectre flail. Your knuckles are striked with a loud crack.
4374h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You feel an aura of rebounding surround you.
4374h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You bleed 4 health.
4370h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You take a long drag off your pipe.
4370h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
4370h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
Tiny tremours spread through your body as the world seems to slow down.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
Rakor razes your aura of rebounding with a tormented spectre flail.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
Your health is quickly deteriorating.
4108h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
With a focused look, Rakor strikes at you with a tormented spectre flail. Your knuckles are striked with a loud crack.
3899h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You may eat another sparkleberry.
3899h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You suddenly perceive the vague outline of an aura of rebounding around Rakor.
3899h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You eat a sparkleberry.
You feel your health, mana and ego replenished.
4355h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
With a focused look, Rakor strikes at you with a tormented spectre flail, and you smoothly step away from the blow. He stumbles forward as he fails to strike you.
4355h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You bleed 2 health.
4353h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
4353h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You feel an aura of rebounding surround you.
4353h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You take a long drag off your pipe.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
Rakor razes your aura of rebounding with a tormented spectre flail.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
With a focused look, Rakor strikes at you with a tormented spectre flail. Your knuckles are striked with a loud crack.
4340h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
With a focused look, Rakor strikes at you with a tormented spectre flail. Your knuckles are striked with a loud crack.
4122h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You may eat another sparkleberry.
4122h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
4122h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You bleed 4 health.
4118h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
Your health is quickly deteriorating.
3707h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You eat a sparkleberry.
You feel your health, mana and ego replenished.
4163h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You feel an aura of rebounding surround you.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You take a long drag off your pipe.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
Rakor razes your aura of rebounding with a tormented spectre flail.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
With a focused look, Rakor strikes at you with a tormented spectre flail. Your knuckles are striked with a loud crack.
4365h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
4365h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
With a focused look, Rakor strikes at you with a tormented spectre flail. Your knuckles are striked with a loud crack.
4146h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You bleed 4 health.
4560h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You may eat another sparkleberry.
4560h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You eat a sparkleberry.
You feel your health, mana and ego replenished.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You feel an aura of rebounding surround you.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
Your health is quickly deteriorating.
4108h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You suddenly perceive the vague outline of an aura of rebounding around Rakor.
4108h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
4108h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
With a focused look, Rakor strikes at you with a tormented spectre flail, and you smoothly step away from the blow. He stumbles forward as he fails to strike you.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
With a focused look, Rakor strikes at you with a tormented spectre flail, but his thrust hits your powerful aura and rebounds back into himself. Rakor hits his own left arm and only leaves a small bruise.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You take a long drag off your pipe.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You may eat another sparkleberry.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You eat a sparkleberry.
You feel your health, mana and ego replenished.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You may drink another health, mana, or bromide potion.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You take a drink from a ruby vial.
The potion heals and soothes you.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
Rakor razes your aura of rebounding with a tormented spectre flail.
4564h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
With a focused look, Rakor strikes at you with a tormented spectre flail. You are hit on the right arm and get only a small bruise.
4346h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You bleed 2 health.
4344h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
Your health is quickly deteriorating.
3910h, 3334m, 3088e, 10p elrx-
You concentrate briefly and your flesh is once again solid.

This test was conducted without any form of regeneration, otherwise I had all of my defenses, excluding surge so that it wouldnt reflect only on the Ur'guard. The above log was with putre.

Straight Damage: 2111
Putre Damage: 2155
Total Damage: 4266
Hit Accuracy: 10/13
Daevos2005-05-22 23:47:54
Now I guess if you think a skill should harm more than it helps, the current state of things is perfectly fine. Otherwise, you will see why we are complaining.
Alger2005-05-22 23:52:03
thats with 10/13 hit accuracy... ill be damned if i let warriors hit me 10 out of 13. If im getting hit that much then im doing something wrong.