Acrune2005-05-26 03:36:19
I saw the premier of star wars III. I dont think I've ever seen so many geeks in one place. Was kinda weird how I've never seen another star wars movie before that. I felt kinda out of place. Was an awesome movie though
Maedhros2005-05-26 03:38:57
QUOTE(Acrune @ May 25 2005, 10:36 PM)
I saw the premier of star wars III. I dont think I've ever seen so many geeks in one place. Was kinda weird how I've never seen another star wars movie before that. I felt kinda out of place. Was an awesome movie though
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Haha, I saw the movie I think a week (or is it two? I forget when it came out) so that I wouldn't have all those people near me moaning loudly about stuff. That and so the theatre wouldn't be so damn packed.
Star Wars 4, 5 and 6 are good. 1 and 2 are cheesefests.
Acrune2005-05-26 03:51:58
QUOTE(Maedhros @ May 25 2005, 11:38 PM)
Haha, I saw the movie I think a week (or is it two? I forget when it came out) so that I wouldn't have all those people near me moaning loudly about stuff. That and so the theatre wouldn't be so damn packed.
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It was actually a pretty fun environment. I'm not really the type to enjoy large crowds. But there was something enjoyable about the large scale excitement all around you, and the cheers when the cool parts happened. Also, the people there were the ones who would really appreciate the movie, and are less like to be idiots, and talk the whole time, and things like that. Most people dont camp out in lines to buy tickets just to make fun of a movie. I saw it again later, and the people behind me we're making fun of it half the time, and it wasn't nearly as fun.
Maedhros2005-05-26 03:56:09
QUOTE(Acrune @ May 25 2005, 10:51 PM)
It was actually a pretty fun environment. I'm not really the type to enjoy large crowds. But there was something enjoyable about the large scale excitement all around you, and the cheers when the cool parts happened. Also, the people there were the ones who would really appreciate the movie, and are less like to be idiots, and talk the whole time, and things like that. Most people dont camp out in lines to buy tickets just to make fun of a movie. I saw it again later, and the people behind me we're making fun of it half the time, and it wasn't nearly as fun.
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The theatre I was in was pretty quiet. Except for the guy that kept crying...it's not that much of a tearjerker. They were unbelievably loud too, and sounded completely real; a sudden one second burst of loud sobbing, then you could kinda hear some quiet weeping before another big burst.
Yrael2005-05-26 04:46:51
Time to go see it, I suppose. WEll, in 15 minutes, when I find my keys. Let's hope it doesn't contain the (As I've said so many times before) George Lucas "I shit on my legacy" Seal of quality.
Karrah2005-05-26 10:58:19
Not bad.
Only one complaint. I just hate how Star Wars is based around the same damn people all the time. As if everyone else in Star Wars is insignificant and cannot make a difference.
Example: They -had- to bring Chewy into it, just because there are wookies. So how did he end up being an important wookie to tagging around Han Solo?
It's like the "force" keeps relying on the same people to change the fate of the galaxy.
Only one complaint. I just hate how Star Wars is based around the same damn people all the time. As if everyone else in Star Wars is insignificant and cannot make a difference.
Example: They -had- to bring Chewy into it, just because there are wookies. So how did he end up being an important wookie to tagging around Han Solo?
It's like the "force" keeps relying on the same people to change the fate of the galaxy.
Unknown2005-05-27 12:51:37
Yeah, good point.
But, I have a theory about how Chewbacca ended up with Han Solo. Everybody interested in SW knows that Chewbacca's with him because, some years ago when Solo was an imperial pilot, he freed Chewbacca from slavery, ruining his career but making the big furry one life-debted to him.
Maybe Chewie ended up as a slave because he was thwarting the Empire's planes somehow? I don't mean helping Yoda, because no one had seen it practically (otherwise Vader would know that Yoda's alive later), but something else, which was a result of this action.
EDOT: Yeah, I know most Wookies ended up as slaves, but it makes sense anyway. And I know it's EDIT, not edot.
But, I have a theory about how Chewbacca ended up with Han Solo. Everybody interested in SW knows that Chewbacca's with him because, some years ago when Solo was an imperial pilot, he freed Chewbacca from slavery, ruining his career but making the big furry one life-debted to him.
Maybe Chewie ended up as a slave because he was thwarting the Empire's planes somehow? I don't mean helping Yoda, because no one had seen it practically (otherwise Vader would know that Yoda's alive later), but something else, which was a result of this action.
EDOT: Yeah, I know most Wookies ended up as slaves, but it makes sense anyway. And I know it's EDIT, not edot.
Yrael2005-05-27 14:36:40
I think the first few moments in the costume were a little bit put on, though. Darth Vader screaming "GRR! PADME!"?
Anarias2005-05-27 21:59:32
Fain is about the only one talking sense on this thread. The movie was not great by any definition. It was entertaining (except the parts where Anakin and Padme are on the screen together) but it was a joke really. There was no gradual transition from good to evil. The only explanation for Anakin turning evil is Cuber's.
Unknown2005-05-28 00:23:24
I saw it... I think it was just as bad as the others. I had hoped it could be cool with that puke playing Anakin getting the crap blown out of him and all, but it just wasn't written or acted well. The dialouge made me choke on my soda a few times it was just ironicaly funny. All in all I think the ones they made before my time, 4, 5, and 6 I think, were far far far far far far far far far far far far far far far far far far better. Thank God they won't make any more. It was a real dissappointing end to one of the greatest Sci-fi series of all time. And I suddenly have a deep and abiding hatred of Gorge Lakeass.
Maelon2005-05-28 12:03:00
wow, thanks Fain, Anarias.
I went and saw it with a few friends of mine, and thought it was terrible. We leave the theater, and in not too long we're surrounded by people who thought it was great and redeemed this or that.
(spoilers)
Anakin did not believably turn to the dark side... at all. Worse, they tried to make it seem like a confusing choice for "anybody." When Mace fought Sidious, wouldn't he have done everything he could (as a Jedi master) without hesitating to kill the avatar of utter evil, whose powers were greater than his and against whom all the other silly redshirt Jedi were owned? No, there has to be a pause to show that even the Jedi masters can 1. be fooled to think of Sidious as unarmed 2. go the ends justify the means route and justify killing someone who's "unarmed" 3. be annihilated by moral conflicts in critical moments just as much as the next guy who hadn't thought things through. Then they act like the council keeping an eye on... the dark lord is another moral conflict. "Wait, if he's evil, you'll totally take over the government?" "From the dark lord of the Sith Anakin? Yes. We so totally will." At least that would've been better than what actually happened.
Vader and Yoda... two characters not entirely mutilated before then for anyone who can put themselves into a coma and forget Vader and Anakin are the same... Vader does the Frankenstein RAGH at the end and calls out to Padme, who he never blames Sidious for, even though he was almost directly opposed to him at several stages in the movie. Yoda... well, we'll leave him be, he survived.
oh! Grievous! That last scene reminded me of the anime in which they try to show you that a character is "badass" by putting them in a room, surrounded by snipers, soldiers with assault rifles and shotguns and grenade launchers, and in this room, where all of the opposition is on a second level balcony 50 feet away on every side and there are no boxes or other obstructions in the entire building... the main character cartwheels out or just shoots everyone "before they can fire." Because the only thing more silly than the lightsaber helicopter of doom was the fact that it was worthless. At least you could make excuses for the stormtroopers missing Luke...
I went and saw it with a few friends of mine, and thought it was terrible. We leave the theater, and in not too long we're surrounded by people who thought it was great and redeemed this or that.
(spoilers)
Anakin did not believably turn to the dark side... at all. Worse, they tried to make it seem like a confusing choice for "anybody." When Mace fought Sidious, wouldn't he have done everything he could (as a Jedi master) without hesitating to kill the avatar of utter evil, whose powers were greater than his and against whom all the other silly redshirt Jedi were owned? No, there has to be a pause to show that even the Jedi masters can 1. be fooled to think of Sidious as unarmed 2. go the ends justify the means route and justify killing someone who's "unarmed" 3. be annihilated by moral conflicts in critical moments just as much as the next guy who hadn't thought things through. Then they act like the council keeping an eye on... the dark lord is another moral conflict. "Wait, if he's evil, you'll totally take over the government?" "From the dark lord of the Sith Anakin? Yes. We so totally will." At least that would've been better than what actually happened.
Vader and Yoda... two characters not entirely mutilated before then for anyone who can put themselves into a coma and forget Vader and Anakin are the same... Vader does the Frankenstein RAGH at the end and calls out to Padme, who he never blames Sidious for, even though he was almost directly opposed to him at several stages in the movie. Yoda... well, we'll leave him be, he survived.
oh! Grievous! That last scene reminded me of the anime in which they try to show you that a character is "badass" by putting them in a room, surrounded by snipers, soldiers with assault rifles and shotguns and grenade launchers, and in this room, where all of the opposition is on a second level balcony 50 feet away on every side and there are no boxes or other obstructions in the entire building... the main character cartwheels out or just shoots everyone "before they can fire." Because the only thing more silly than the lightsaber helicopter of doom was the fact that it was worthless. At least you could make excuses for the stormtroopers missing Luke...
Fain2005-05-28 12:49:55
Whats funny to me most about the star wars today and the star wars of yesteryear is Yoda. He has completely been turned around into a wisecracking comic relief item from his humble and pure beginnings in that little mud hut on Dagobah. I watched Empire a few days ago and damn, I really miss that little green puppet. He was full of -real- wisdom.
Gone is he, the one you call Yoda.
Gone is he, the one you call Yoda.
Karrah2005-05-28 17:48:23
Yeah I agree, Yoda is supposed to be a odd little wise muppet. Not a all powerful serious jedi. Plus you'd think after all those centuries he's lived, you'd think he'd master English.
Falasin2005-05-29 04:38:48
QUOTE(Maelon @ May 28 2005, 12:03 PM)
Because the only thing more silly than the lightsaber helicopter of doom was the fact that it was worthless.
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This was actually one thing that I did find to be in-character for any of the characters in the film. Grievous was ungodly arrogant. The man/man-in-droid takes trophies from people he personally did nothing to aprehend, and then tries to fight one on one with a jedi master using techniques that his master 'has been teaching him.' He was too confident in his own handiwork and tried to do some fairly worthless things, while it can be said that good soldiers make good leaders, not all good leaders make good soldiers. Grievous' downfall was due to his taking the actions of his men as a reflection of his own.
Grievous was an accomplished swordsman, as can be seen in the animated Clone Wars series, and he actually used the 'helicopter of doom' to great effect in it. Other than his skill in combat, during the animated series the General used the weapon of fear. As Jedi can not sense him (as a half-kaleesh/half-droid he isn't part of the living force) they must rely on their sight and sound, a fact which the General took into account during his attacks on the Jedi, but not during the suprise attack by Obi-Wan.
Meh, looks like I've started to turn this into a rant, I'll stop myself now. I've just been hearing oodles of disapointment about Grievous after seeing him in the Clone Wars series. I don't know if people under-estimated Obi-Wan's skill, or the difficulty of attacking one target with four lightsabers (Keeping them from hitting each other constantly must be neigh impossible), but I really liked the character of Grievous, one of the lights in what Star Wars has become, and I thought I'd protect him. I felt that his character's arrogance (arrogance that was tempered with a lot of skill, mind you) was fairly well developed, and though not much backstory was given in the movie itself with a little outside information he easily lands himself as one of my favorite characters.
Maelon2005-05-29 06:42:26
QUOTE(Falasin @ May 29 2005, 12:38 AM)
This was actually one thing that I did find to be in-character for any of the characters in the film. Grievous was ungodly arrogant. The man/man-in-droid takes trophies from people he personally did nothing to aprehend, and then tries to fight one on one with a jedi master using techniques that his master 'has been teaching him.' He was too confident in his own handiwork and tried to do some fairly worthless things, while it can be said that good soldiers make good leaders, not all good leaders make good soldiers. Grievous' downfall was due to his taking the actions of his men as a reflection of his own.
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He's a partial robot. Keeping the swords from hitting each other should be relatively easy for him with what he used them for. Hence, the helicopter junk was laughable. It was a poor example of anything that he could've done. Then in addition to having all the swords, he failed to do much with them, and didn't figure on retreating after he'd clearly lost - if you have four swords and are somehow good with them, then you lose all your arms and have one, and have been retreating the whole movie... it's time run again. Someone who could use that many swords at once, with little or no regard for balance or fatigue, should not really even be approached with one sword. You might say he was arrogant, but he was also a coward (or wise enough to retreat when he should've, depending on how you want to take it), and his demise was pretty sad.
That being said, his character was fine. I mean, don't get me wrong, It was a shining beacon in the darkness when he was dropped in the same movie as Anakin.
Alger2005-05-30 06:26:03
obi wan died
Stangmar2005-07-08 05:33:07
I've seen it twice and i LOVE it.
I don't know why everybody has a stick up their arses about the prequels. They are really good, except for a few corny lines, but then, every movie has a corny line. The action is good. I HATED how in the OT they fought like they were all worn out and crappy. In this movie they had energy and spirit. Obi-wan actually almost had a sense of humor. I think they should have had a different actress for Padme though. Portman did a poor job. the corniest line i think was 'You're breaking my heart!'. Christensen did better as Anakin than he did in 2. I liked watching him burn up(i'm a cruel pyro) and scream in agony. It was funny. Also, I like what happens to Palpy in his duel with Windu. Must have been really painful. And one of you said you recently learned who Sidious was? sheesh, I figured it out in the first 5 minutes of ep 1, and i was NINE.
I don't know why everybody has a stick up their arses about the prequels. They are really good, except for a few corny lines, but then, every movie has a corny line. The action is good. I HATED how in the OT they fought like they were all worn out and crappy. In this movie they had energy and spirit. Obi-wan actually almost had a sense of humor. I think they should have had a different actress for Padme though. Portman did a poor job. the corniest line i think was 'You're breaking my heart!'. Christensen did better as Anakin than he did in 2. I liked watching him burn up(i'm a cruel pyro) and scream in agony. It was funny. Also, I like what happens to Palpy in his duel with Windu. Must have been really painful. And one of you said you recently learned who Sidious was? sheesh, I figured it out in the first 5 minutes of ep 1, and i was NINE.
Unknown2005-07-10 00:38:08
Well as a complete star wars nut, I think the movie blew donkies. Grievous was weak sauce, they killed off their best character leading to to it (Aasej Ventress). Dooku was irrelevent and suddenly was a crappy swordsman too. Chewie should of been like 10, and for those who want to know how chewie ended up with Han GET THE BOOKS. The acting was pretty horrible all around, Lucas just decided spooging more cgi's would be better than coaching his crew on their characters. Now if you want to see a good movie go see Batman Begins. That was pwnzorstron5000.
Rakor2005-07-10 00:43:36
anakin you are breakin my heart